Indian Cricket League thread

[chaminda_00]

Ah, okay, makes sense. Thanks

Does domestic cricket pull a decent TV audience in India then? Cause over here I don't think it does, not even the T20... can they make money out of it long-term?

Nah not at all, but a lot has to do with the lack of advertising and awareness. Actually i'll be surprised if there is any domestic cricket on TV.

The thing that will keep this running is the potential for sponsorship of players, if they keep the big names coming. I can't see there being a great TV audience unless the sides are jam packed with international players similar to European football sides. But maybe if there isn't any domestic coverage on TV, then it could be an untapped market.

But really the long term success will be on the back of sponsorship dollars, or TV audience.

 

[Perm]

It's Twenty20. Skill and dedication is not an absolute prerequistite.

Skill definitely is, particularly when batting. I doubt you've watched any Twenty20 internationals, but the batsman who play to a set game plan and look to hit the ball in good areas with clean cricket shots are usually the ones who will suceed. The sloggers are almost always found out, just like in Test and ODI cricket.

 

[Anil]

No, just less than Tests.

I'd say the proportion less would be something like this:
Tests
ODIs











Twenty20 Ints

glad to say i finally agree with something you said....

 

[Richard]

Skill definitely is, particularly when batting. I doubt you've watched any Twenty20 internationals, but the batsman who play to a set game plan and look to hit the ball in good areas with clean cricket shots are usually the ones who will suceed. The sloggers are almost always found out, just like in Test and ODI cricket.

I've watched 2 IIRR (they all seem like one another to me ) and if you can swing 22 off 9 balls you've done your job, though in a ODI or Test that's a poor innings.

Which is why I think class is less important in Twenty20 games than FC or OD ones.

 

[Perm]

I've watched 2 IIRR (they all seem like one another to me ) and if you can swing 22 off 9 balls you've done your job, though in a ODI or Test that's a poor innings.

Which is why I think class is less important in Twenty20 games than FC or OD ones.

Class is different from skill. It does take skill to suceed in Twenty20 cricket, it just takes different and more skill to suceed in ODI and Test cricket.

 

[no1_gangsta_786]

Damien Martyn joins the ICL.

 

[Richard]

Class is different from skill. It does take skill to suceed in Twenty20 cricket, it just takes different and more skill to suceed in ODI and Test cricket.

Well when I say "class" and "skill" I mean the same thing, TBH.

Obviously Twenty20 takes some skill, but by the standards of OD and FC cricket, not much.

 

[Perm]

Well when I say "class" and "skill" I mean the same thing, TBH.

Obviously Twenty20 takes some skill, but by the standards of OD and FC cricket, not much.

Class and skill are completely different in this case though, obviously it takes a lot more class to be a successful batsman in Test cricket than it does in Twenty20. Equally, Twenty20 requires a lot of skill that Test cricket does not, and on occasion means more skill is required.

 

[brockley]

This is a joke they can't come up with a new competition in 2 weeks,the bcci is desperate.

 

[Manee]

The BCCI say they have been working on it for two years.

 

[shankar]

If the skill required for Tests>ODIs>20-20, then a person who succeeds in the first should have no problems succeeding in the other two formats, which is obviously not the case. The fact is each format requires its own special set of skills. We appreciate these skill sets differently - we enjoy the skill set required for test cricket more than that required for ODIs and 20-20.

 

[honestbharani]

If the skill required for Tests>ODIs>20-20, then a person who succeeds in the first should have no problems succeeding in the other two formats, which is obviously not the case. The fact is each format requires its own special set of skills. We appreciate these skill sets differently - we enjoy the skill set required for test cricket more than that required for ODIs and 20-20.

absolutely. Because while in ODIs and Twenty20, the skill becomes intertwined to the physical fitness and athleticism of the players in a bigger way than in test cricket, because of the duration of the test cricket and the amount of variations in conditions, it can be construed to be the STERNER and therefore truer test of the person's CRICKETING skills... But it is quite obvious that ODIs and Twenty20s need their own skill sets which are almost just as hard to master as the skills required in test cricket are.

 

[Chubby Rain]

The BCCI say they have been working on it for two years.

They lie.

Around 2 years back, I remember reading about a proposal for an inter-city OD league. No mention of Twenty20, and no mention of overseas players. It wasn't thought out by Modi as they claim now, but rather by Dalmiya's group (unless Modi or the RCA were onboard with him). Then they left the file to gather dust. It never got beyond the conceptual stage.

Now that the ICL is staring them in the face, they're behaving like the office employee who is caught napping, then wakes up blabbering and leafing hurriedly through random files to create the impression of having been hard at work all the time.

 

[Richard]

If the facade works, though, it doesn't matter, does it?

 

[Richard]

If the skill required for Tests>ODIs>20-20, then a person who succeeds in the first should have no problems succeeding in the other two formats, which is obviously not the case. The fact is each format requires its own special set of skills. We appreciate these skill sets differently - we enjoy the skill set required for test cricket more than that required for ODIs and 20-20.

absolutely. Because while in ODIs and Twenty20, the skill becomes intertwined to the physical fitness and athleticism of the players in a bigger way than in test cricket, because of the duration of the test cricket and the amount of variations in conditions, it can be construed to be the STERNER and therefore truer test of the person's CRICKETING skills... But it is quite obvious that ODIs and Twenty20s need their own skill sets which are almost just as hard to master as the skills required in test cricket are.

Oh, quite. For me, the skills required for Twenty20 are "lesser" if you will than those for FC and OD games. Which is why I don't like the 20-over format.

 

[Nishant]

Oh, quite. For me, the skills required for Twenty20 are "lesser" if you will than those for FC and OD games. Which is why I don't like the 20-over format.

fair enough TBH...but i think the point of the 2020 format was always to have a bit of fun and entertain the fans...although i must say, the bowlers in 2020 always need to be skillful in their variations and the length and lines they ball...it is quite difficult to bowl in 2020s.

 

[Chubby Rain]

If the facade works, though, it doesn't matter, does it?

Yeah, thats a real pity, isn't it? Though I think Kapil had a point when he said that the BCCI would look like asses if the ICL threw up, say a young Indian player who knocked the socks off every batsman only to not be selected to play for India.

 

[biased indian]

they donr have nay such players so far..and the players joing ICL are retired players.

Last week ESPN Sportscentre said that Murali might join ICL for 2 Million $ but didnt hear
anything after that.

 

[Perm]

Oh, quite. For me, the skills required for Twenty20 are "lesser" if you will than those for FC and OD games. Which is why I don't like the 20-over format.

In some respects, yes. But there are skills required for Twenty20 cricket that aren't essential to Test cricket (quick running between wickets, electric fielding, excellent bowling variation) and there are some skills required for Tests, a lot of them mental, that aren't that important in Twenty20 cricket.

 

[The Sean]

In some respects, yes. But there are skills required for Twenty20 cricket that aren't essential to Test cricket (quick running between wickets, electric fielding, excellent bowling variation) and there are some skills required for Tests, a lot of them mental, that aren't that important in Twenty20 cricket.

I'd consider all of that essential to Test cricket. Certainly to high quality Test cricket.