Who is the most frustrating player for your country?

[Mr Mxyzptlk]

Greg Smith against England was ridiculous last year.

Graeme even.

Greg Smith

 

[a massive zebra]

Oh dear. My bad.

 

[PY]

i was the first one to mention bevan,PY just ripped it off from me.....

 

[Arjun]

For India:
Australia- All the batsmen. They make a mockery of the Indian so-called pace attack, reducing them to pie throwers for a long time. In particular, Hayden, Gilchrist, Ponting, Symonds and Clarke. Not to mention, McGrath- he gets Sachin out early all the time. Even Brett Lee. Why can't the Indian team have such bowlers?

England- Not too sure, none irritate the Indians much.

New Zealand- Lou Vincent. He does nothing useful, then gets a century in India along with Mark Richardson. Also Scott Styris, though an interesting player to watch. Also Jacob Oram. Why can't the Indian team have all-rounders like them? Even Shane Bond.

South Africa- All their all-rounders. Simply bcause there are none in the Indian team. Also Allan Donald- a lot faster than his really slow Indian counterparts.

Sri Lanka- Sanath and Romesh- they have taken apart the Indian bowlers, medium-pace and spin, repeatedly. Also Muralitharan- he has a good record against the Indians.

West Indies- The pair of Hooper and Chanderpaul, along with Sarwan and even Gayle. They blow away the Indian attack with big sixes and frequent fours. Why can't Indian batsmen do the same? Not to mention Lawson. Any Indian tearaway quicks?

Zimbabwe- Andy Flower, Andy Blignaut and Travis Friend, before injuries reduced him to a bits-and-pieces player.

Bangladesh- None, as of now.

 

[Waughney]

New Zealand- Lou Vincent. He does nothing useful, then gets a century in India along with Mark Richardson.

Don't forget Craig McMillan.

 

[Hoggy]

A short one from Lee and Ganguly smashes him over midwicket for six

How did he go against Lee in the World Cup? I think you will find that Lee got him out both times cheaply that they played.

 

[Nate]

no all-rounders for india you say?? then whats agarkar?

 

[Arjun]

no all-rounders for india you say?? then whats agarkar?

Slightly better than average bowler who can bat a bit. Umm... Boycott says he can't bat for nuts. Still, he's not as good as Kallis, Klusener, Pollock, Cairns, Styris, Oram, Flintoff, Tudor, Akram, Razzaq, Azhar Mahmood or even Andy Bichel, who's not even branded an all-rounder! An all-rounder can change a match being good at both skills, like those examples. Agarkar can't. Besides, having these little men as strike fast bowlers has a lot of kickbacks. I would rather have a Pollock or Cairns in place of Agarkar.

 

[Mr Mxyzptlk]

West Indies- The pair of Hooper and Chanderpaul, along with Sarwan and even Gayle. They blow away the Indian attack with big sixes and frequent fours. Why can't Indian batsmen do the same?

Because they don't get to face the Indian attack.

 

[Arjun]

Because they don't get to face the Indian attack.

So what if they don't? The Indian attack is as good as most other international attacks. Anyway, there is a hint of them going for the big ones, as they did in Pakistan. The team needs more like Sehwag- I don't care what the purists say, he is definitely a player many sides would want.

 

[Mr Mxyzptlk]

So what if they don't? The Indian attack is as good as most other international attacks. Anyway, there is a hint of them going for the big ones, as they did in Pakistan. The team needs more like Sehwag- I don't care what the purists say, he is definitely a player many sides would want.

1/ It was a joke.
2/ The saviour Pathan and his sidekick Balaji weren't around when Hooper and Chanders were belting the Indians.
3/ It was a joke! Hence the .

 

[Neil Pickup]

1/ It was a joke.
2/ The saviour Pathan and his sidekick Balaji weren't around when Hooper and Chanders were belting the Indians.
3/ It was a joke! Hence the .

2/ Balaji was. 4-0-44-0 was it?

 

[Mr Mxyzptlk]

2/ Balaji was. 4-0-44-0 was it?

Indeed. A couple noballs, a couple wides... a few fours... a six...

 

[Hoggy]

How did he go against Lee in the World Cup? I think you will find that Lee got him out both times cheaply that they played.

I did a bit of research on the case...here is Ganguly's record against Lee in ODI's...

  Year    Opp   Venue         0s   1s   2s   3s   4s   6s   Runs  Balls     RPO   Notes  
  99/00 v Aus @ Melbourne  -  15    9    1    0    3    0     23     28    4.93 - Made 100 (127 balls, 10 4's) opening
  99/00 v Aus @ Sydney     -   -    -    -    -    -    -      -      -      -  - Made 5 (9 balls) opening
  99/00 v Aus @ Adelaide   -   -    -    -    -    -    -      -      -      -  - Made 5 (8 balls, 1 4) opening
  00/01 v Aus @ Nairobi    -  26    0    0    0    3    0     12     29    2.48 - Made 24 (42 balls, 5 4's) opening
* 02/03 v Aus @ Centurion  -   6    2    0    0    0    0      2      8    1.50 - Made 9 (21 balls, 1 4) opening         
* 02/03 v Aus @ Jo'burg    -  11    2    0    0    1    0      6     14    2.57 - Made 24 (25 balls, 3 4's, 1 6) number 3 
  03/04 v Aus @ Brisbane   -   -    -    -    -    -    -      -      -      -  - Made 18 (24 balls, 2 4's, 1 6) opening
* 03/04 v Aus @ Sydney     -   3    0    0    0    0    0      0      3    0.00 - Made 1 (8 balls) opening    
  03/04 v Aus @ Perth      -   1    0    0    0    0    0      0      1    0.00 - Made 1 (10 balls) number 5
  03/04 v Aus @ Melbourne  -   -    -    -    -    -    -      -      -      -  - Made 6 (21 balls) number 5
  03/04 v Aus @ Sydney     -   1    1    0    0    0    0      1      2    3.00 - Made 3 (15 balls) number 4

  11 matches played agst   -  63   14    1    0    7    0     44     85    3.10

The asterix's are the games Lee has gotten him out.

Now what game was it that Ganguly hit Lee for six?

 

[Sanz]

Saeed Anwar.

 

[ReallyCrazy]

I did a bit of research on the case...here is Ganguly's record against Lee in ODI's...

  Year    Opp   Venue         0s   1s   2s   3s   4s   6s   Runs  Balls     RPO   Notes  
  99/00 v Aus @ Melbourne  -  15    9    1    0    3    0     23     28    4.93 - Made 100 (127 balls, 10 4's) opening
  99/00 v Aus @ Sydney     -   -    -    -    -    -    -      -      -      -  - Made 5 (9 balls) opening
  99/00 v Aus @ Adelaide   -   -    -    -    -    -    -      -      -      -  - Made 5 (8 balls, 1 4) opening
  00/01 v Aus @ Nairobi    -  26    0    0    0    3    0     12     29    2.48 - Made 24 (42 balls, 5 4's) opening
* 02/03 v Aus @ Centurion  -   6    2    0    0    0    0      2      8    1.50 - Made 9 (21 balls, 1 4) opening         
* 02/03 v Aus @ Jo'burg    -  11    2    0    0    1    0      6     14    2.57 - Made 24 (25 balls, 3 4's, 1 6) number 3 
  03/04 v Aus @ Brisbane   -   -    -    -    -    -    -      -      -      -  - Made 18 (24 balls, 2 4's, 1 6) opening
* 03/04 v Aus @ Sydney     -   3    0    0    0    0    0      0      3    0.00 - Made 1 (8 balls) opening    
  03/04 v Aus @ Perth      -   1    0    0    0    0    0      0      1    0.00 - Made 1 (10 balls) number 5
  03/04 v Aus @ Melbourne  -   -    -    -    -    -    -      -      -      -  - Made 6 (21 balls) number 5
  03/04 v Aus @ Sydney     -   1    1    0    0    0    0      1      2    3.00 - Made 3 (15 balls) number 4

  11 matches played agst   -  63   14    1    0    7    0     44     85    3.10

The asterix's are the games Lee has gotten him out.

Now what game was it that Ganguly hit Lee for six?

hehe. i tell you it happened. nice research btw

 

[blackcapsrule]

Until Recently probably Flintoff, but lately he's slowly turning into the player we know he is. I'd have to say Mark Butcher. The guy has BAGS of talent, easily the most in the England side just he has ZERO powers of concentration and usual gets to the 20-30 mark beautifully then gets out slashing to a really wide one or pushing out to a wide one he could leave.

Recently as of the West Indies series.

 

[blackcapsrule]

Saeed Anwar.

He was, a few good knocks doesn't keep you in a team. Although his 194 was STYLISH!

 

[blackcapsrule]

I quite the like the idea of a thread saying which player from your country annoys you the most because there would be lots of different opinions on that topic.

But in line with the topic:

Australia : Bevan
New Zealand : Richardson (and Vettori in the last series against England in England.)
India : Ganguly
Pakistan : Youhana
Sri Lanka : Atapattu
South Africa : Smith
West Indies : Lara

They are just personal opinions, I haven't researched them so might just be a distorted memory.

For England, the people who have frustrated me a little in a petty way are :

Butcher, Vaughan and Flintoff for their obvious talent yet they haven't YET been able to perform like the Australian and Indian batsman have and do it year-in year-out at the peak of their game.....am I asking too much? Quite probably but I wouldn't be English if I didn't have a moan.

I agree with them all apart from our boys and Ganguly.

 

[marc71178]

no all-rounders for india you say?? then whats agarkar?

That is the eternal conundrum!