Who is the best fast bowler in the world right now - Tests

[Furball]

err why?

remember that spell against ricky ponting?

remember the man of the series against windies?

well on the way.

He was garbage in his most recent series and he's spent much of the last 3 years trying to outdo Sreesanth in the "worst Test bowler ever" stakes.

 

[MW1304]

err why?

remember that spell against ricky ponting?

remember the man of the series against windies?

well on the way.

Remember 4-0?

Don't mean to gloat, just genuinely asking.

 

[centurymaker]

Where the hell do you get the idea that I don't rate Steyn?

if you're going to rate anderson as highly as you do, then you are relatively under-rating steyn IMO.

so let's say a typical CW user
gives Anderson 7/10
and steyn 9/10


and if you then give anderson 8/10
and steyn 8.5/10

then you are under-rating steyn because what you are saying is that anderson is almost as good as steyn.
large majority of the people will say that there's some daylight between the two, if you dont really think theres daylight then i take it as under-rating steyn (even though you could argue that you are over-rating anderson).

it's like you are devaluing steyn although you are giving him a similar rating as everyone else.

 

[Jacknife]

err why?

remember that spell against ricky ponting?

remember the man of the series against windies?

well on the way.

You are joking right?

 

[centurymaker]

err why?

remember that spell against ricky ponting?

remember the man of the series against windies?

well on the way.

he needs to eat a lot more and put some muscle if he wants to perform like that again.

he's nothing without that extra pace.

 

[r3alist]

i said eventually, not quite there yet but in a few years time he could well be no.1, especially once steyn is finished.

he has been the best young bowling prospect, period.

 

[MW1304]

i said eventually, not quite there yet but in a few years time he could well be no.1, especially once steyn is finished.

he has been the best young bowling prospect, period.

Other than Roach, Finn, Praveen, Copeland, Riaz, Southee, Bresnan and probably more.

 

[centurymaker]

i said eventually, not quite there yet but in a few years time he could well be no.1, especially once steyn is finished.

he has been the best young bowling prospect, period.

Broad, Roach, Morkel, Finn..........................

 

[r3alist]

btw, anderson isnt fit to lick steyns boots, include fans are full of face palm on this one, he really isn't.

if anderson does something worthwhile against pakistan in uae then we will talk about a comparison, steyn has vicious 90mph swinging yorkers in dry conditions, what does jmmykins have?

he is a vampire, disappear in the sun.

 

[r3alist]

Other than Roach, Finn, Praveen, Copeland, Riaz, Southee, Bresnan and probably more.

they might be young, and up and coming, but are they as good as sharma?

 

[Jacknife]

if you're going to rate anderson as highly as you do, then you are relatively under-rating steyn IMO.

so let's say a typical CW user
gives Anderson 7/10
and steyn 9/10


and if you then give anderson 8/10
and steyn 8.5/10

then you are under-rating steyn because what you are saying is that anderson is almost as good as steyn.
large majority of the people will say that there's some daylight between the two, if you dont really think theres daylight then i take it as under-rating steyn (even though you could argue that you are over-rating anderson).

it's like you are devaluing steyn although you are giving him a similar rating as everyone else.

Can't believe I'm doing this but here go, how do you come up with that logic, if you rate Anderson you're underrating of Steyn, WTF?
How can you have a problem in someone rating Anderson, in the last couple of years he's closed down the ground on Steyn massively, since the start of 2010 Steyn averages 21, Jimmy 23 and Anderson's played far more tests than Steyn, so it's not as if is not in the same league.
I just don't get where you coming from and it almost sounds like your just trying to cause friction, in what ****ing world can't you rate both Steyn and Anderson highly.
If anything it's you that doesn't rate Anderson highly enough but then again I couldn't give a monkeys if you do or don't.

 

[centurymaker]

they might be young, and up and coming, but are they as good as sharma?

not at all. they are actually not even close!!!
Sharma will be a top tier ATG, and I believe he's already half-way there.

/

 

[centurymaker]

Can't believe I'm doing this but here go, how do you come up with that logic, if you rate Anderson you're underrating of Steyn, WTF?
How can you have a problem in someone rating Anderson, in the last couple of years he's closed down the ground on Steyn massively, since the start of 2010 Steyn averages 21, Jimmy 23 and Anderson's played far more tests than Steyn, so it's not as if is not in the same league.
I just don't get where you coming from and it almost sounds like your just trying to cause friction, in what ****ing world can't you rate both Steyn and Anderson highly.
If anything it's you that doesn't rate Anderson highly enough but then again I couldn't give a monkeys if you do or don't.

4 tests v Pakistan helped alot.

If you start saying that tendulkar is close to bradman, then you are devaluing bradman's ability aren't you?


let's end it here tbh.

edit- saying someone is this goood, that good is all a relative measure.

 

[Jacknife]

btw, anderson isnt fit to lick steyns boots, include fans are full of face palm on this one, he really isn't.

if anderson does something worthwhile against pakistan in uae then we will talk about a comparison, steyn has vicious 90mph swinging yorkers in dry conditions, what does jmmykins have?

he is a vampire, disappear in the sun.

Oh right because facing Pakistan's batting line up in UAE will be a true measure, give me a ****ing break and if you believe what you've posted you must not of watched him bowl in the 2 years.

 

[r3alist]

You are joking right?

yes, i have had enough fun, i was joking


but seriously, anderson is not in the same ballpark as steyn.

f*** stats and figures, anderson bulldozing weak teams in good conditions with decent bowling supporting him does not impress me, its good to an extent, but he is a limited bowler.

steyn is a freakin machine - he has pace, accuracy, skill and the ability to wickedly reverse it - great bowler.

 

[r3alist]

Oh right because facing Pakistan's batting line up in UAE will be a true measure, give me a ****ing break and if you believe what you've posted you must not of watched him bowl in the 2 years.

err yes, proving he can do something in conditions which aren't helpful always sorts the boys out from the men.

 

[Furball]

4 tests v Pakistan helped alot.

If you start saying that tendulkar is close to bradman, then you are devaluing bradman's ability aren't you?

let's end it here tbh.

That'll be the same Pakistan Steyn averaged mid 40s against?

Look, Steyn has been performing at a higher level, for longer. But there's been absolutely nothing between the two for the last 18 months. There is absolutely no doubt that Steyn has had the better career, but that doesn't necessarily mean that he is the better bowler right now. And I think there's certainly a case to be made that Anderson might just be the better bowler just now. That doesn't mean that I don't think that Steyn is by far the best bowler of his contemporaries, but it's also high praise for Anderson that he has raised his game to the same levels Steyn's been at for the last 3 or 4 years. Zaheer Khan would be up there as well if he wasn't broken.

 

[Furball]

err yes, proving he can do something in conditions which aren't helpful always sorts the boys out from the men.

24 wickets in Australia.

 

[Furball]

yes, i have had enough fun, i was joking


but seriously, anderson is not in the same ballpark as steyn.

f*** stats and figures, anderson bulldozing weak teams in good conditions with decent bowling supporting him does not impress me, its good to an extent, but he is a limited bowler.

steyn is a freakin machine - he has pace, accuracy, skill and the ability to wickedly reverse it - great bowler.

Sorry, Australia (in Australia btw, traditionally an absolute graveyard for opposition bowlers), Sri Lanka and India are weak teams now?

 

[BlazeDragon]

He averages 23 runs conceded per wicket taken - if he only conceded 2.3 runs per over but his strike rate went up to 60 then he wouldn't actually be taking his wickets any cheaper.

That would mean that he would have to get his strike rate up even higher. Working on his economy rate would be the logical thing to do.

Btw, I don't think what your saying in there would ever happen.