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Who is a better batsman Martyn or Chanderpaul?

steds

Hall of Fame Member
Martyn. Although they're completely different players and it's hard to compare them in any area apart from how many runs their bats yield.





...I wonder what'll happen when Linda comes back to see this thread...
 

C_C

International Captain
disagree. At the moment, I'd rate Sehwag next after Martyn. Martyn played multiple match-winning hundreds in difficult conditions against quality bowling last year. Every time he scored runs, he made it count. Sehwag is a great player, but mostly seems to fall down when his team is in most need of runs, as evidenced by his poor second innings average and many of his big scores going nowhere rather than putting India in winning positions.

Bulldust- Sehwag excelled when every other batsman was struggling against the aussies.
Sehwag opens too, which is harder than comming in at #4.
on recent form, sehwag is miles ahead of martyn in tests.
 

Scallywag

Banned
Beleg said:
Chanderpaul has been the better of the two in my viewing experience. He is an extremely obstinate batsman, you can almost appreciate the tenacity with which he hangs onto his wicket and ****blocks most bowlers.

Martin too is a classy act. But I honestly haven't seen enough of him to comment on his relative place in the pantheon of modern greats.

I rate Chanders ahead of all playing currently except Ponting, Lara, Tendulkar, Sehwag, Inzy, Kallis, Dravid and Gilchrist. In such a batsman hippy-happy era that is very good going.
Langer and Hayden are also better batsmen than Chanderpaul.
 

vic_orthdox

Global Moderator
Mister Wright said:
It is starting to bewilder me the blindness which (some of) the Australians show on this forum. I think it is fair to say, that on current form and probably over that Martyn is a better batsman than Chanderpaul, but with the extent that some are saying here is just amazing. Chanerpaul is by no means a mug with the bat, and has played some very important innings and has done so with class and maturity, and has carried his team on more than enough occasions.
I now find no need to post.

Well, except for this.
 

Scallywag

Banned
C_C said:
Bulldust- Sehwag excelled when every other batsman was struggling against the aussies.
Sehwag opens too, which is harder than comming in at #4.
on recent form, sehwag is miles ahead of martyn in tests.
How do you define recent form.

Over the last ten tests Martyn has played exceptionaly well.
 

FaaipDeOiad

Hall of Fame Member
C_C said:
Bulldust- Sehwag excelled when every other batsman was struggling against the aussies.
Sehwag opens too, which is harder than comming in at #4.
on recent form, sehwag is miles ahead of martyn in tests.
He was India's best batsman against Australia, yes, but that doesn't alter the fact that he's never done anything of note in the second innings, and he hasn't recently played many match-winning knocks, while Martyn was the best in the world in that regard last year, guiding Australia to two wins in Sri Lanka and India in tough conditions for Man of the Series awards.
 

C_C

International Captain
He was India's best batsman against Australia, yes, but that doesn't alter the fact that he's never done anything of note in the second innings, and he hasn't recently played many match-winning knocks, while Martyn was the best in the world in that regard last year, guiding Australia to two wins in Sri Lanka and India in tough conditions for Man of the Series awards.

Sehwag has played several matchwinning knocks- and on recent form-form over the past year or so, Sehwag is definately better than martyn- true he is shyte in second innings, but he by far eclipses martyn in the first innings and overall.
 

marc71178

Eyes not spreadsheets
To watch, I'd choose Martyn any time (except hopefully not this summer ;))

It'd be interesting to see how the 2 would go if they swapped sides.
 

marc71178

Eyes not spreadsheets
FaaipDeOiad said:
He was India's best batsman against Australia, yes, but that doesn't alter the fact that he's never done anything of note in the second innings,
To be fair, Martyn hasn't scored a 2nd innings run in 2005.

Mind you, he hasn't batted in the second innings in 2005.
 

King_Ponting

International Regular
C_C said:
Bulldust- Sehwag excelled when every other batsman was struggling against the aussies.
Sehwag opens too, which is harder than comming in at #4.
on recent form, sehwag is miles ahead of martyn in tests.
Well opening is only harder if you struggle against spin. Some could argue that batting at four is harder because u have to face the spinners, something sehwag isnt particularily good at which can be seen in his performances during the second innings of a test match, because he has minimal footwork.
 

marc71178

Eyes not spreadsheets
C_C said:
Sehwag has played several matchwinning knocks
An interesting comment.

India have won 12 matches with Sehwag in the side.

In that time he's played at the most 2 innings that could be deemed match winning.
 

Scallywag

Banned
C_C said:
Sehwag has played several matchwinning knocks- and on recent form-form over the past year or so, Sehwag is definately better than martyn- true he is shyte in second innings, but he by far eclipses martyn in the first innings and overall.
Over the past year (10 tests) Martyn averages 74 to Sehwags 68, pretty damm close.
 

vic_orthdox

Global Moderator
marc71178 said:
To watch, I'd choose Martyn any time (except hopefully not this summer ;))

It'd be interesting to see how the 2 would go if they swapped sides.
Very true in both respects. It's a lot easier to make runs when there is someone staying there at the other end.
 

vic_orthdox

Global Moderator
King_Ponting said:
Well opening is only harder if you struggle against spin. Some could argue that batting at four is harder because u have to face the spinners, something sehwag isnt particularily good at which can be seen in his performances during the second innings of a test match, because he has minimal footwork.
I think that conclusion from belongs in SJS's stat factory.

Anyone see Sehwag vs MacGill in 03/04? How someone could play a reasonable spinner like MacGill like that and have a weakness against spin is beyond me.
 

Craig

World Traveller
marc71178 said:
To watch, I'd choose Martyn any time (except hopefully not this summer ;))
When Martyn is going in full flow, he is very very good to watch.

For me I would choose Chanderpaul. Partly because I like his style.

marc71178 said:
It'd be interesting to see how the 2 would go if they swapped sides.
It is just like anything. It would be interesting if somebody like Brett Lee was in the Black Caps or any of the Asian countries, or Heath Streak had somebody as support for Zimbabwe.

Just as it would be if Jose Mourinho was manager of West Brom and Iain Dowie was manager of Chelsea and be able to buy any type of player he wants, while Mourinho wouldn't have a big transfer budget.
 
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