Which cricketer is peer/pundit review most wrong on?

[Brook's side]

McGrath, Garner etc. underrated as well. Both were seen as a supportive bowler to Warne and Marshall respectively. Kinda of unfair to McGrath especially.

Noone saw McGrath as a support bowler.
I don't think they did Garner either. I know his career was a bit later, but Walsh was the support bowler.

 

[Brook's side]

how are we supposed to make a better assessment of players than their playing peers btw???

Saying that, I'll go everyone pre-1930s.

 

[kyear2]

I like how HB is silent now.

You don't have to constantly poke the bear.

And it wasn't like they troubled him per say.

 

[kyear2]

McGrath, Garner etc. underrated as well. Both were seen as a supportive bowler to Warne and Marshall respectively. Kinda of unfair to McGrath especially.

Don't see how anyone could have watched cricket during that era and beloved that McGrath was Warne's support bowler.

Literally the exact opposite of reality.

 

[reyrey]

I don't really remember McGrath being talked about or seen as a support for Warne. Definitely not say post 2000

 

[howitzer]

On overrated by Sobers, I present Mahadevan Sathasivam. Sobers called him "The Greatest Batsman ever on Earth" and Worrell called him "The Greatest Batsman I have ever seen", allegedly.

On Gupte and Larwood, I think they are special cases whose ceiling we don't really know about, as both of their international careers got cut short when they were the best bowler in their country by a mile, and they also do have the FC performances to somewhat back them up.

There's kind of an element of this about Johnny Wardle too, though that was Yorkshire ending both his domestic and international careers.

 

[Coronis]

The media/pundits definitely loved Warne to bits, far more than McGrath. Not 100% sure what the players thought.

 

[honestbharani]

I like how going to sleep at night hours is now considered "being silent". Maybe salty is salty about me having a life too. The butthurt must be SKY high now after the WC win.


In other facts, here is Kumble talking about how he could never get on top of Lara.

My wife thought I was probably joking: Anil Kumble on bowling with broken jaw

Kumble rates Lara as one of the toughest batters he had bowled to, as the Prince of Trinidad has three shots for one delivery.

indianexpress.com

Salty just cant accept better cricketers

 

[subshakerz]

And it wasn't like they troubled him per say.

Except Lara literally says that they did.

I like how going to sleep at night hours is now considered "being silent". Maybe salty is salty about me having a life too. The butthurt must be SKY high now after the WC win.

In other facts, here is Kumble talking about how he could never get on top of Lara.

My wife thought I was probably joking: Anil Kumble on bowling with broken jaw

Kumble rates Lara as one of the toughest batters he had bowled to, as the Prince of Trinidad has three shots for one delivery.

indianexpress.com

Salty just cant accept better cricketers

A bigger person admits their mistakes. You claimed Lara didn't have an issue with flatter spin bowlers. I showed you the clip he says just that. Instead of taking the L and admitting this, you deflect.

 

[kyear2]

Except Lara literally says that they did.


A bigger person admits their mistakes. You claimed Lara didn't have an issue with flatter spin bowlers. I showed you the clip he says just that. Instead of taking the L and admitting this, you deflect.

Bigger person dos day stuff like that either. Just drop it.

 

[honestbharani]

I have literally seen Lara bat all through his career and while he says he found it harder to face flatter spinners, it does not mean he had trouble facing them. There is a world of difference and any sane person can see that. Which is what Kumble showed in his interview as well.

But salty can carry on cribbing about stuff that only exist in his head. Reality shows Lara is the best player of spin in my time of watching cricket.

Its sad his life must be pathetic enough to warrant calling these Ws and Ls when its just posting about a sport you follow.

 

[subshakerz]

I have literally seen Lara bat all through his career and while he says he found it harder to face flatter spinners, it does not mean he had trouble facing them. There is a world of difference and any sane person can see that. Which is what Kumble showed in his interview as well.

But salty can carry on cribbing about stuff that only exist in his head. Reality shows Lara is the best player of spin in my time of watching cricket.

Exist in my head? Lara literally gave several examples of such flatter spinners, said they caused him problems and didn't want to face them. You don't want to talk about the clip itself.

I guess Lara doesn't know his game better than you do.

 

[honestbharani]

Yeah stuff like what he actually scored against them doesn't matter.

And the same bowlers saying they had no idea where to bowl at Lara doesn't matter either. Maybe the bowlers didn't know their own games as well as salty does.

 

[subshakerz]

And the same bowlers saying they had no idea where to bowl at Lara doesn't matter either. Maybe the bowlers didn't know their own games as well as salty does.

Keep your opinions fixed like stone then. Hopefully the others learned something.

 

[PlayerComparisons]

Had no idea Lara struggled against flatter spinners.

Thanks for sharing subs.

 

[sayon basak]

Had no idea Lara struggled against flatter spinners.

Thanks for sharing subs.

I can not remember a single spinner that was not flat. Maybe because I follow men's cricket only.

 

[Migara]

Unfortunately many here are under the misunderstanding that Lara was great against all spin. He himself said he struggled against flatter spinners like Kumble and Saqlain because they didn't toss up the ball.

The most he struggled against was Raju. Who flighted it a lot.

 

[subshakerz]

The most he struggled against was Raju. Who flighted it a lot.

That was early career, yes?

 

[Migara]

That was early career, yes?

93/94 I presume. WI had a great escape in India because Jimmy Adamas knew how to use the pad against Kumble, Raju and Chauhan.

 

[subshakerz]

Gooch called him better than Warne

Did Gooch actually say that?

I think Qadirs rating is so high for being the top spinner of the 80s. Tho Qasim may have a say.