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The normal awards that everyone else has
even in Australian terms, he’s not necessarily above G.Chappell, Ponting, Border, Harvey, S. Waugh imo
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Where will Steve Smith end up being ranked?
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Coronis
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@capt_Luffy you’re a huge Ponting stan, reckon he wins?
sayon basak
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How fast time flies! Now it seems like his average will end up closer to 50 than 60.
Johan
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honestbharani
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They always were. Its why we always say wait for the whole career before judging any player. He is at that same level as them, for me.. But not better and I have always leaned towards the Lara-Sachin better than Smith, even at his peak.
The_CricketUmpire
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Is this the thread where I told @TheJediBrah Smith would average less than 30 as an opener, he did exactly that but TJB never acknowledged it?
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Firstly, I'm not judging that case on just 4 matches. Secondly pretty sure the main point was that he wouldn't do any worse as opener than he would at 4, which still seems a safe call for now
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subshakerz
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Below Tendulkar.
Ahead of Lara though.
Ahead of Lara though.
Red_Ink_Squid
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Does not compute
PlayerComparisons
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Smith after 110 games averages 56.40 while batting mostly at #4
Ponting after 112 games averaged 59.42 while batting mostly at #3
Ponting after 112 games averaged 59.42 while batting mostly at #3
Coronis
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So? Is all you do judge by raw averages? Sachin after 110 games averaged 55. Does that make him worse?
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Even if his decline gets worse from here, reckon he has an argument to be ranked above Sachin and Lara purely for how amazing his peak was. Maybe not an argument I'd make but I wouldn't dismiss it either.
Very easily better than Ponting/Waugh though imo
Very easily better than Ponting/Waugh though imo
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Which part do you disagree with?
Smith has the best sustained 5-6 year peak I've ever seen. Overall I'd take lara and Sachins careers but a peak like that counts for a lot in my eyes.
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No doubting his peak was incredible, but he didn't dominate attacks the way Lara, Richards, Ponting & Tendulkar (slightly lesser extent) did & you just said it yourself, you'd take their overall careers. We all have an overall calculation for rating batsmen, and I do think 'peak' should be factored but it ain't the be or and end all for me to suddenly project Smith ahead of Lara and Tendulkar.