Viv Richards vs Adam Gilchrist

[Coronis]

iirc Brook has the second highest SR of any batsman to have scored 500 runs at an average of over 10.

 

[capt_Luffy]

I don't get why Pant is rated highly by certain people.

Pant has won us 2 back to back series in Australia..... Enough said. But also have centuries in England and SA, all the while batting top 5. Was initially not a Test standard keeper then improved significantly, but now post comeback looks a bit jammy again. Hope he reverts back to his former self (not circa 2018 though, this one's better than that). He basically is a very good counter attacking high impact middle order batsman and had a short stretch where he was a quite good keeper.

 

[Coronis]

> Harry Brook

Jaiswal also one to note

 

[Narayana]

and Matt Henry, and Will O Rourke who has seemed very skilled, he also finished off Wagner, also bashed Aussie pace quaret in the final test, averaged 40 at 80 SR, and he isn't even in the same league as Viv

but if you want to play it like that, Joe Root since 2021: 5149 runs @ 56, 63 strike rate.

barely less than Viv.

Okay, i heard from someone that bazball has changed the duke ball, so that it will not swing and seam much, to score truckloads of runs at home?
Is it true

 

[Johan]

but if you want to play it like that, Joe Root since 2021: 5149 runs @ 56, 63 strike rate.

barely less than Viv.

btw why do people assume Root is a defensive bat, is it his face?

 

[sayon basak]

btw why do people assume Root is a defensive bat, is it his face?

His face is beautiful.

 

[Johan]

Okay, i heard from someone that bazball changed the duke ball, so that it will swing and seam much, to score truckloads of runs at home?
Is it true

That's just some stupid conspiracy theory, the Duke ball in 2023 had bad leather stock that ****ed it's quality, but in 2024 it was confirmed that the ball has been fixed

The man behind Dukes: We've fixed soft and out of shape cricket balls

WORLD OF CRICKET: Dilip Jajodia, the owner of British Cricket Balls, the makers of Dukes, has said the issue of them going soft and out of shape during games this summer has been resolved.

www-dailymail-co-uk.cdn.ampproject.org

 

[Narayana]

Jaiswal also one to note

Yes

btw why do people assume Root is a defensive bat, is it his face?

To be very honest, i don't know why but i think since the arrival of bazball, England playing in the most batting friendly pitches in comparison to top 4.

 

[Johan]

To be very honest, i don't know why but i think since the arrival of bazball, England playing in the most batting friendly pitches in comparison to top 4.

England pitches are positively neutral, with aid to seam and swing bowlers. it's not like India which makes minefields, or Australia which is frankly just out of form rn, but all of Root's big series take place when he's batting quick, the 4 hundred against Bumrah, 2015 Ashes, 2021 SL etc, he was playing fast in all of them.

 

[sayon basak]

Pant has won us 2 back to back series in Australia..... Enough said. But also have centuries in England and SA, all the while batting top 5. Was initially not a Test standard keeper then improved significantly, but now post comeback looks a bit jammy again. Hope he reverts back to his former self (not circa 2018 though, this one's better than that). He basically is a very good counter attacking high impact middle order batsman and had a short stretch where he was a quite good keeper.

Fair, he is a good bat. But definitely would want him to improve from a Rizwan level keeper.

 

[Coronis]

Fair, he is a good bat. But definitely would want him to improve to a Rizwan level keeper.

 

[capt_Luffy]

Fair, he is a good bat. But definitely would want him to improve from a Rizwan level keeper.

Like Rizwan is a really Good keeper..... What are you talking about??

 

[Johan]

Kohli at his peak was also striking at 60+ btw, it's not about "technology", Viv was just that guy.

 

[sayon basak]

Like Rizwan is a really Good keeper..... What are you talking about??

I don't rate Rizwan as a good keeper. Ok my definition of "good" might be a bit strict.

 

[capt_Luffy]

btw why do people assume Root is a defensive bat, is it his face?

Others bazball around him harder. Also don't think he's criticized for being defensive in the bazball Era, not nearly as much as throwing away his wicket irresponsibly at times (Bumrah reverse scoop was worse than Kohli 6th stump..... Okay not that bad, but still).

 

[capt_Luffy]

I don't rate Rizwan as a good keeper. Ok my definition of "good" might be a bit strict.

Rizwan is genuinely good though

 

[Narayana]

England pitches are positively neutral, with aid to seam and swing bowlers. it's not like India which makes minefields, or Australia which is frankly just out of form rn, but all of Root's big series take place when he's batting quick, the 4 hundred against Bumrah, 2015 Ashes, 2021 SL etc, he was playing fast in all of them.

Oh, Can you tell me why sl is only playing at galle, where the monster prabhat Jayasuriya takes all the wickets single-handedly ?

 

[Johan]

Others bazball around him harder. Also don't think he's criticized for being defensive in the bazball Era, not nearly as much as throwing away his wicket irresponsibly at times (Bumrah reverse scoop was worse than Kohli 6th stump..... Okay not that bad, but still).

The difference between Kohli and Root is shown by the reverse scoop and the Cover drives, I'll let you think what I mean by that

 

[Johan]

Oh, Can you tell me why sl is only playing at galle, where the monster prabhat Jayasuriya takes all the wickets single-handedly ?

so that Prabhat Jayasuriya bowls them to win

 

[sayon basak]

Rizwan is genuinely good though

Ok maybe I underrate both. I apologize.