Viv Richards vs Adam Gilchrist

[sayon basak]

Andy Flower is a greater wk batsman

The wicket keeping gap is definitely bigger.

 

[capt_Luffy]

40 is perfectly fast. Can he go at 20 though???

 

[capt_Luffy]

The wicket keeping gap is definitely bigger.

Depends how you rate Flowers keeping on footage and anecdotes, or thereof the lack of them

 

[Narayana]

Hope this is a joke.

Why ?they both Averages 40+ and great records in sena .

 

[DrWolverine]

The wicket keeping gap is definitely bigger.

No.

 

[Coronis]

No.

Yes, very much so.

 

[Johan]

40 is perfectly fast. Can he go at 20 though???

Yeah, for 14, infact

WI vs NZ Cricket Scorecard, 2nd Test at Georgetown, April 06 - 11, 1985

Get cricket scorecard of 2nd Test, WI vs NZ, New Zealand tour of West Indies 1984/85 at Bourda, Georgetown, Guyana dated April 06 - 11, 1985.

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[DrWolverine]

Yes, very much so.

No

 

[sayon basak]

Why they both Averages 40+ and great records in sena .

They are absolutely meh Keepers, just look at the PAK vs WI test, Rizwan let go at least 15/20 runs per innings. Pant is of the same category imo. Gilly is just the better batter and light years above with the gloves.

 

[Johan]

there is barely a batting gap between Flower and Gilchrist, you'd be insane to pick Flower to bat at 6 or 7, or pick Flower to keep to Marshall or Warne

 

[sayon basak]

No

That's a compelling argument I must say.

 

[Narayana]

You can not be consistent,(AVG 50+) by playing with 70 strike rates in modern era,
Because of lack of technology , no one couldn't found the weakness of Viv in that era, players like head and pant are playing aggressively but they are successful only because they have to face the old ball.
As a top order batter, playing aggressively only gives performance like Warner in modern era.

 

[Johan]

You can not be consistent,(AVG 50+) by playing with 70 strike rates in modern era,
Because of lack of technology , no one couldn't found the weakness of Viv in that era, players like head and pant are playing aggressively but they are successful only because they have to face the old ball.
As a top order batter, playing aggressively only gives performance like Warner in modern era.

> Harry Brook

 

[sayon basak]

You can not be consistent,(AVG 50+) by playing with 70 strike rates in modern era,
Because of lack of technology , no one couldn't found the weakness of Viv in that era, players like head and pant are playing aggressively but they are successful only because they have to face the old ball.
As a top order batter, playing aggressively only gives performance like Warner in modern era.

There is another explanation. Viv is just miles better than Head/Pant/Warner.

 

[Johan]

though, that's the thing with someone like Viv, everyone had footage at the time, rewind, analysis, everything was available. But simply put, until Viv developed eye issues, he simply had no weaknesses, there was no one like him before him and there probably won't be anyone like him ever.

 

[sayon basak]

> Harry Brook

I don't get why Pant is rated highly by certain people.

 

[Narayana]

> Harry Brook

He is a failure against stong teams till now, only bashed highway pak blowers and retired Southee, young NZ blowers.

 

[Johan]

He is a failure against stong teams till now, only bashed highway pak blowers and retired Southee, young NZ blowers.

and Matt Henry, and Will O Rourke who has seemed very skilled, he also finished off Wagner, also bashed Aussie pace quaret in the final test, averaged 40 at 80 SR, and he isn't even in the same league as Viv

 

[Narayana]

I don't get why Pant is rated highly by certain people.

Hundreds in sena in some of the most blowing friendly pitches of eng,sa.

 

[Johan]

He is a failure against stong teams till now, only bashed highway pak blowers and retired Southee, young NZ blowers.

but if you want to play it like that, Joe Root since 2021: 5149 runs @ 56, 63 strike rate.

barely less than Viv.