tuffey vs harmison

[tooextracool]

You'll never get it.

point proven!now im certaint that pathan is a much better bowler than harmison will ever be and more consistent too

 

[twctopcat]

You're no fun any more.

This has the possibility of becoming one of the most puerile, pathetic Cricket Web threads of all time and as such deserves to be persevered with.

You're different i'll give you that. I don't like my neville chamberlain impersonations, sometimes my diplomatic side comes out, i hate it.

 

[luckyeddie]

Well he's special that's why I think he'll be more consistent! Harmison has just found himself and now he's living up to his potential.

And your first statement is a demonstrable fact because?

(Puts little 'Sooty' teddy bear to his ear, nods approvingly)

Yup. Convinced me. The rest of you can all go home now - Chicane wins.

 

[chicane]

Erm, Harmison being ranked number 2 in the World

Which doesn't really mean much. If Pathan plays Bangladesh or the current WI side he may also get a lot of wickets and shoot through the rankings.

Harmison's average being 25 against 38...

Pathan's average is 38 largely because of his two tests against the Aussies.
His bowling average vs Pakistan was 28.50 on largely dead wickets(Just look at the averages of the Pakistani bowlers - Shoaib [42.42] and Sami[62.14] for comparison). His average is bound to improve playing against lesser teams.

 

[chicane]

by different i meant that harmison has become a much better bowler in recent times because of that new action.... not that he bowls differently from pathan...good god!!and he tells me i cant read

I'm not gonna waste my time with your lame brain anymore. Just remember I'm not as stupid as you. How do you survive man?

 

[luckyeddie]

Which doesn't really mean much. If Pathan plays Bangladesh or the current WI side he may also get a lot of wickets and shoot through the rankings.

Fidel Edwards and Tino Best are struggling to do so at the mement

 

[badgerhair]

Harmison needs to do it against the very best (i.e Australia and India).

Given that Harmison's average against India is 24.00, what more do you need him to do?

Cheers,

Mike

 

[chicane]

Given that Harmison's average against India is 24.00, what more do you need him to do?

Cheers,

Mike

Umm yeah but India are a much changed side after Australia 2003.

 

[luckyeddie]

Umm yeah but India are a much changed side after Australia 2003.

No, the batting line-up's pretty well the same.

 

[superkingdave]

Umm yeah but India are a much changed side after Australia 2003.

Just like they were a much changed side after Australia 2000-2001?

 

[chicane]

No, the batting line-up's pretty well the same.

They have added a lot to all aspects of their game.

 

[chicane]

Just like they were a much changed side after Australia 2000-2001?

India have always been formidabble at home and beat Australia convincingly even in the previous tour in 97 or 98. But in'99 in Aus they were haplessly crushed. Even Dravid failed. There is a HUGE difference between winning against Aus at home and in Aus.

 

[Neil Pickup]

I can see this thread going down the pan before too long..

 

[a massive zebra]

I can see this thread going down the pan before too long..

I can see you closing it before too long..

 

[superkingdave]

They have added a lot to all aspects of their game.

But the batting line up is pretty much the same... Harmisons average didn't depend on the Indian fielding ability

 

[chicane]

But the batting line up is pretty much the same... Harmisons average didn't depend on the Indian fielding ability

No it's not. India have started winning tests away from home only recently, and largely due to their batting. Dravid failed miserably in the '99 Aus tour, but had an amazing turnaround in 2003. Only Laxman was immune to the Aussies

 

[chicane]

Not to mention the emergence of Sehwag and Yuvraj. Even Parthiv Patel's batting has improved.

 

[twctopcat]

Which doesn't really mean much. If Pathan plays Bangladesh or the current WI side he may also get a lot of wickets and shoot through the rankings.

Pathan's average is 38 largely because of his two tests against the Aussies.
His bowling average vs Pakistan was 28.50 on largely dead wickets(Just look at the averages of the Pakistani bowlers - Shoaib [42.42] and Sami[62.14] for comparison). His average is bound to improve playing against lesser teams.

You guys sure do like your fast bowlers to be the best in the world eh??
Mcgrath , i spit on the man!

 

[chicane]

You guys sure do like your fast bowlers to be the best in the world eh??
Mcgrath , i spit on the man!

Why wouldn't we? It would be a dream come true if Pathan can scale such heights. Pathan is good and promising, he's NOT THE BEST IN THE WORLD OR BETTER THAN MCGRATH OR WASIM AKRAM'S REINCARNATION.

 

[Neil Pickup]

Why wouldn't we? It would be a dream come true if Pathan can scale such heights. Pathan is good and promising, he's NOT THE BEST IN THE WORLD OR BETTER THAN MCGRATH OR WASIM AKRAM'S REINCARNATION.

Or Harmo