The ATG World XI's game

[Howe_zat]

Jack Russell

Chaminda Vaas, Jimmy Anderson

Subhash Gupte

 

[weldone]

1. Rashid Latif
2. Makhaya Ntini, Chaminda Vaas, Garth McKenzie

 

[fredfertang]

Jack Russell

Sylvester Clarke, Jack Gregory, Bart King

Don't really see why non-test players should be excluded - comparisons between them and test players are obviously tricky but no more so than the cross-generational comparisons that are the whole point of this

 

[Dan]

Don't really see why non-test players should be excluded - comparisons between them and test players are obviously tricky but no more so than the cross-generational comparisons that are the whole point of this

Agreed. I don't see why people who were never afforded the chance to play Test cricket should be excluded, hence why I included Eddie Gilbert, Bart King and Johnny Mullagh in my shortlists (and, in hindsight, should have included Rice and Garth Le Roux).

Obviously, if players were simply perceived as not good enough to play Tests, they shouldn't be making ATG XIs. But when they simply haven't had the opportunity, through no fault of their own, I think they definitely can.

 

[NUFAN]

Agreed. I don't see why people who were never afforded the chance to play Test cricket should be excluded, hence why I included Eddie Gilbert, Bart King and Johnny Mullagh in my shortlists (and, in hindsight, should have included Rice and Garth Le Roux).

Obviously, if players were simply perceived as not good enough to play Tests, they shouldn't be making ATG XIs. But when they simply haven't had the opportunity, through no fault of their own, I think they definitely can.

Players who were perceived not good enough to play Tests simply didn't have the opportunity, through no fault of their own too.

Also for the Sim they have 0 wickets and 0 runs which makes them the worst player.

 

[Jager]

Yeah, it might make it tricky for the sim, but if we're only using 16 teams then this is the last squad that will need legitimate statistics. After the World O, it would probably matter a lot less, unless everyone is keen on a 24-team sim. It does seem strange to be making dream test XI's with players who never played though.

 

[Camo999]

Jack Russell

I'll go the very effective proven combo of McDermott, Reid and Hughes

 

[Dan]

Players who were perceived not good enough to play Tests simply didn't have the opportunity, through no fault of their own too.

Also for the Sim they have 0 wickets and 0 runs which makes them the worst player.

Really? Players who were perceived not good enough to play Tests didn't have the opportunity because they, generally speaking, weren't good enough to play Tests. Apartheid South Africa players, to use one example, didn't have the opportunity because of racist politics.

Given those Le Roux and Rice, for example, were good enough to be picked in World XIs throughout their career, arguably they would be good enough for this.

If we get past the 16 simming teams, I don't understand why it matters.

 

[NUFAN]

Really? Players who were perceived not good enough to play Tests didn't have the opportunity because they, generally speaking, weren't good enough to play Tests. Apartheid South Africa players, to use one example, didn't have the opportunity because of racist politics.

Given those Le Roux and Rice, for example, were good enough to be picked in World XIs throughout their career, arguably they would be good enough for this.

If we get past the 16 simming teams, I don't understand why it matters.

Yes really. Generally speaking you are right but its not the case always as selectors can make mistakes or chose someone very good and not take a risk. Someone like Darren Berry might have been one of the best keepers of all time, Jamie Siddons could have played like Mark Waugh but went on with his pretty 70s and 137-140 scores and made big scores. David Hussey could have had a sublime Test career but no one is going to pick any of them.

I do feel sorry for the Cricketers who didn't get an opportunity to play Test Cricket or had their careers cut short for varying reasons, but someone like King could have performed like Ramprakash did in Tests.

Its too much guess work for me.

 

[watson]

MS Dhoni

Wayne Daniel
Darren Gough
Zaheer Khan

 

[marc71178]

Russell

Streak
Anderson
Hughes

 

[kyear2]

Jack Russell

Craig Mcgermott
Mkayha Ntini

Erapalli Prasanna/Jimmy Anderson (if no spinner)

 

[G.I.Joe]

Matt Prior

Vaas, Gupte, Chandrasekhar

 

[NasserFan207]

Boucher

Fanie Devilliers
Vaas
Ntini

 

[kingkallis]

Boucher

Fanie
McDermott
Ntini

 

[morgieb]

Prior

McDermott, Vaas, Anderson

 

[Jacknife]

Matt Prior

Sylvester Clarke, Jimmy Anderson, Darren Gough

 

[Blakus]

Mark Boucher

Graham Mckenzie, Chaminda Vaas, Jack Gregory

 

[NUFAN]

Votes - Only 3 were keen on having more than the one spinner, so we have 3 quicks in this team.

keeper
Mark Boucher 4
Jack Russell 6
Gerry Alexander 2
Rashid Latif 1
MS Dhoni 1
Matt Prior 3

quick bowlers
Fanie de Villiers 3
Craig McDermott 6
Bruce Reid 3
Javagal Srinath 1
Mohammad Asif 1
James Anderson 6
Wayne Daniel 2
Jack Gregory 3
Bart King 2
Amar Singh 1
Chaminda Vaas 6
Makhaya Ntini 4
Garth McKenzie 2
Sylvester Clarke 2
Merv Hughes 2
Darren Gough 2
Zaheer Khan 1
Heath Streak 1


World O XI
1. Sid Barnes
2. Mark Taylor
3. Younis Khan
4. Douglas Jardine
5.
6.
7. Jack Russell
8. Chaminda Vaas
9. Hugh Trumble
10. Craig McDermott
11. James Anderson

 

[NUFAN]

1) Select a number 5 and 6.

Suggested number 5 and 6
Shakib Al Hasan, Mohinder Amarnath, Hashim Amla, Mohammad Azharuddin, Ian Bell, Colin Bland, Herbie Collins, Daryl Cullinan, Charlie Davis, Aravinda de Silva, Martin Donnelly, Kumar Duleepsinhji, Sourav Ganguly, Gerry Gomez, Murray Goodwin, Tom Graveney, Michael Hussey, Alvin Kallicharan, Maurice Leyland, Saleem Malik, Vinoo Mankad, Damien Martyn, Ken Mackay, Brian McMillan, Mushtaq Mohammad, Seymour Nurse, Norman O'Neill, John R Reid, Lawrence Rowe, Jack Ryder, Thilan Samaraweera, Arthur Shrewsbury, Robin Smith, Raman Subba-Row, Herbie Taylor, Polly Umrigar, Dilip Vengsarkar, Gundappa Viswanath, Frank Woolley