The ATG Teams General arguing/discussing thread

[a massive zebra]

you guys even read the post of mine you quoted for these replies?

Yes. Other than the list of players, literally all the post said was "The "fielding is more important in a 50 over contest than any other format" XI". So we suggested some like for like replacements who are probably better fielders than those you selected.

What point are you trying to make?

 

[a massive zebra]

btw there's no fkn way I'm gonna listen to someone arguing for Murali over Warne in a fielding XI. whether you think warne belongs or not, there's no way Murali belongs OVER Warne.

As I said, I didn't put much thought into the bowlers. Happy with Jadeja or Harper, both good options.

I always shrug when someone says Murali was a good fielder too. I only saw the second half of his career so he probably was a lot better when he was younger but from what I saw he was one of the worst fielders I saw at international level lol. Like truly atrocious.

In the first half of his career Murali was very athletic and made countless outstanding reflex catches and superb diving stops, along with several quality run outs with his lightening running speed and fast arm. I agree in the second half of his career his fielding wasnt up to much, although "truly atrocious" is a stretch.

 

[a massive zebra]

Interesting that a number of people are nominating Garner as a great fielder. I don't dispute this view as he was before my time and I have no evidence to the contrary, but as far as I recall this is the first time I have ever heard people discuss his fielding.

 

[TheJediBrah]

In the first half of his career Murali was very athletic and made countless outstanding reflex catches and superb diving stops, along with several quality run outs with his lightening running speed and fast arm. I agree in the second half of his career his fielding wasnt up to much, although "truly atrocious" is a stretch.

I'm sure I'm selectively remembering the worst of it.

 

[trundler]

Interesting that a number of people are nominating Garner as a great fielder. I don't dispute this view as he was before my time and I have no evidence to the contrary, but as far as I recall this is the first time I have ever heard people discuss his fielding.

Ian Chappell often talks about his reach. Apparently Garner was genuine quality at gully, where he didn't even have to dive to take stunners.

 

[a massive zebra]

I'm sure I'm selectively remembering the worst of it.

Or perhaps you are too young to have watched cricket in the 90s? But yes, in the second half of his career Murali's fielding was mediocre, not atrocious IMO.

 

[stephen]

Ian Chappell often talks about his reach. Apparently Garner was genuine quality at gully, where he didn't even have to dive to take stunners.

Yeah he was a gun gully fielder. My dad raved about how good he was there.

 

[bagapath]

I remember garner proudly claiming in an interview that he has never dropped a catch. I also remember him pouching some serious catches with his quick reflexes and large hands making them look easy all the tine, mostly at gully, and throwing the ball up casually.

 

[honestbharani]

He was good even in that masters series they played in the mid or late 90s... Was very good as a fielder even at that age.

 

[Red]

Interesting that a number of people are nominating Garner as a great fielder. I don't dispute this view as he was before my time and I have no evidence to the contrary, but as far as I recall this is the first time I have ever heard people discuss his fielding.

Genius in the gully. Guy had a 40 foot wing span and the reflexes of a cat.

 

[Red]

Clive Lloyd's another guy who was a brilliant fielder at mid wicket or cover. Plenty of the West Indies of the 70s/80/s/90s were gun fields. Richards, Lloyd and Harper. Garner in gully. Greenidge was a v good slipper. Gus Logie was a gun. Marshall, Holding and Roberts were all good outfielders being such natural athletes. Hooper was good later on.

 

[mr_mister]

Gus Logie seems like a proto Jonty

Whippet in the field and between wickets who's batting average doesn't give the full story of his usefulness

Maybe Temba Bavuma also in this category? I've seen him make an amazing run out

 

[JBMAC]

Clive Lloyd's another guy who was a brilliant fielder at mid wicket or cover. Plenty of the West Indies of the 70s/80/s/90s were gun fields. Richards, Lloyd and Harper. Garner in gully. Greenidge was a v good slipper. Gus Logie was a gun. Marshall, Holding and Roberts were all good outfielders being such natural athletes. Hooper was good later on.

You're forgetting Hunte, Solomon, Hooper, Kallichran Nourse,

 

[TheJediBrah]

What was Bradman like in the field. Heard before that he was very good

 

[Gob]

So I was thinking about a t20 team consist of players who have never played competitive t20 cricket.Must have been done before but still fun

Richards.B
Sobers
Richards.V
De Silva
Pollock
Botham
Dev
Imran *
Kaluwitharana +
Marshall
Barnes

To take them on

Gayle
McCullum *
Watson
Kohli
DeVilliers +
Yuvraj
Afridi
Starc
Gul
Malinga
Murali

Would be nice viewing

 

[Red]

You're forgetting Hunte, Solomon, Hooper, Kallichran Nourse,

Hunte, Solomon, Kallicharan and Nourse were before my watching time, and I did include Hooper.

Would be interested in your opinions on the best fielders you've seen over your time.

 

[Red]

What was Bradman like in the field. Heard before that he was very good

mostly at cover I think, solid fielder from accounts I've read.

 

[Red]

So I was thinking about a t20 team consist of players who have never played competitive t20 cricket.Must have been done before but still fun

I'd go something like:

V.Richards
G.Pollock
G.Sobers
K.Miller *
C.Lloyd
K.Dev
D.Lindsay +
W.Akram
H.Larwood
C.Grimmett
B.Bedi

 

[stephen]

One imagines that Kapil would have excelled at the t20 format.

 

[mr_mister]

Learie Constantine worth a shout?