Super Eight

[FaaipDeOiad]

Geez, Watto.

 

[four_or_six]

Geez, Watto.

Poor bloke

 

[JustTool]

I don't generally reply to you, but Sanz is far from a "juvenile fan of Tendulkar". He's about as far as you can get from a juvenile, and a Tendulkar fan.

Well, good for you - how does it feel to be wrong all these years. As I have been saying for years now (and proven right by Mr. Tendulkar's dismal performance match after match especially under pressure):

DROP TENDULKAR !

Ian Chappell is wrong - ZEROdulkar is not playing for statistics -- just for MONEY !!!

 

[Matt79]

Well, good for you - how does it feel to be wrong all these years. As I have been saying for years now (and proven right by Mr. Tendulkar's dismal performance match after match especially under pressure):

DROP TENDULKAR !

Ian Chappell is wrong - ZEROdulkar is not playing for statistics -- just for MONEY !!!

I'm confused JustTool. Are you saying that Tendulkar should be put back as captain, or what?

 

[Perm]

Well, good for you - how does it feel to be wrong all these years. As I have been saying for years now (and proven right by Mr. Tendulkar's dismal performance match after match especially under pressure):

DROP TENDULKAR !

Ian Chappell is wrong - ZEROdulkar is not playing for statistics -- just for MONEY !!!

Get over it for crying out loud, either give some constructive criticism or just leave these frigging boards.

 

[pup11]

Aussies have 7 days off in a row now before their next game against England, hopefully it gives time for Watto to recover.

But Watto is doing his career no favours by breaking down ever so often, i know its not his fault but surely he needs to do some serious work on his fitness. But still i think he is damn unlucky to keep on getting injured like this every time he gains some momentum in his career.

 

[Perm]

I don't know why Shane Watson keeps breaking down, he looks pretty fit and has a fair amount of muscle on him so whether he's just not following a good nutritional programme or something like that, because he certainly doesnt look unfit.

 

[Johnners]

Get over it for crying out loud, either give some constructive criticism or just leave these frigging boards.

My nomination for afridi

entirely agree Perm

 

[four_or_six]

I don't know why Shane Watson keeps breaking down, he looks pretty fit and has a fair amount of muscle on him so whether he's just not following a good nutritional programme or something like that, because he certainly doesnt look unfit.

I read a few months ago something him saying he was really careful what he ate and he wasn't drinking alcohol at all... I can't find a link at the moment.

Also, I doubt he would be given repeated goes in the team unless the management were happy he was doing everything he could about his fitness.

Is is possible that he vastly overtrained as a youngster, like 14-19 years old or something... could that have a lasting impact?

 

[Perm]

I read a few months ago something him saying he was really careful what he ate and he wasn't drinking alcohol at all... I can't find a link at the moment.

Also, I doubt he would be given repeated goes in the team unless the management were happy he was doing everything he could about his fitness.

Is is possible that he vastly overtrained as a youngster, like 14-19 years old or something... could that have a lasting impact?

I don't think so, overtraining as a youngster usually has a fairly minor effect. Sometimes it may last for a year or two but I doubt if Watson is still receiving these injuries due to pushing himself too hard as a youngster.

 

[four_or_six]

I don't think so, overtraining as a youngster usually has a fairly minor effect. Sometimes it may last for a year or two but I doubt if Watson is still receiving these injuries due to pushing himself too hard as a youngster.

Maybe pushing himself too hard now.

Mark Nicholas made interesting comments when Watson walked off yesterday. Something like how he was so desperate to succeed, especially after all the knocks, that he was coiled tighter than a spring and it was like it sometimes just snapped.

 

[Matt79]

Also likely that previous injuries have not fully recovered and remain vulnerable to tweaks, or that he is consciously or unconsciously trying to avoid straining those previous injuries and in the process placing unusual strains on other parts of his body.

 

[Perm]

Quite possibly he could be training too hard and not giving himself a large enough recovery period to allow his muscles to reform after breaking them up during his training. However, I would assume a top sportsman like this would know that he needs to have a decent recovery period and I am certain that the team's physio would know that.

 

[Matt79]

Can't help but notice that we've seemed to have more injuries since Errol Allcott finished as team physio.

 

[four_or_six]

Can't help but notice that we've seemed to have more injuries since Errol Allcott finished as team physio.

Yeah, and after Watson re-did his hamstring on his return from injury they sent him to work with Allcott and then he got back okay.

 

[TT Boy]

Watson’s problem may simply extend from his upper body being considerably out of proportion to his lower body. I do not know the scientific validly of such a claim but when I use to sprint I was advised due my penchant for working out excessively on my upper body that to avoid hamstring pulls or calf problems (et cetera) was to get my body symmetrical. I know for dancers that being symmetrical is ridiculously important not only due to the movements but it does mean your weight is distributed evenly. This maybe not applicable for Shane but a couple of sportsman namely footballer Craig Bellamy have expressed concerns that his lower body is incapable of carrying his muscular top half for a time without breaking down, simply his knees can not tolerate the excess weight.

 

[TT Boy]

I don't know why Shane Watson keeps breaking down, he looks pretty fit and has a fair amount of muscle on him so whether he's just not following a good nutritional programme or something like that, because he certainly doesnt look unfit.

It is rather erroneous to equate having a six pac and good muscle definition to being fit, Brad Hogg is supremely fit and a fantastic athlete but he hardly has a body to die for.

 

[TT Boy]

Disconcerting thing for Bangladesh yesterday is that they seem to be from the ill educated 20/20 school of thought that means reduced overs cricket is simply a slog fest. Anyone who watches the shortest format would know batting like Tamim Iqbal will not get you anywhere. Reduced overs yes but does not mean reduced brain cells.

 

[Perm]

It is rather erroneous to equate having a six pac and good muscle definition to being fit, Brad Hogg is supremely fit and a fantastic athlete but he hardly has a body to die for.

No, but by looking at his muscle definition you can tell that he is fairly strong and has the upper body to handle the rigours of cricket. Of course, playing cricket and bowling at the top level would require a bowler to be fit, and don't bring up Dwayne Leverock as an example to the contrary. Watson has been playing for Queensland and Australia for a few years now, so you would have to assume he has a reasonable fitness level to be able to do what he does.

 

[TT Boy]

i really hope WI wins tommorow but i dont know....

Hopefully Sri Lanka can win today and knock the West Indies out. I know people will say losing the host's is problem but when you consider that the crowds are appalling with the host's in the tournament, then it will not make much of a difference if they departed us. Could see it being a rather embarrassing exit if Sri Lanka bowl first, one suspects Vaas will fancy a concrete and out of form Chris Gayle.