Coronis
International Coach
Again, Hammond was never knighted
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Steve Smith vs Brian Lara
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kyear2
International Coach
Pretty sure there's a better option for no. 5
Johan
International Regular
#AppeaseBCCI!
Johan
International Regular
Uggggggggggggggggggghhhhhhhh The fact I used Sir in front of Andrew Strauss but can't use it for Sutcliffe and Hammond is a tragedy
kyear2
International Coach
Was honestly was thinking the same thing.
subshakerz
Hall of Fame Member
Aussies care a lot about blokes who do well against them. Fair enough.
PlayerComparisons
International Vice-Captain
It might be across all formats which Kohli is definitely a candidate for
kyear2
International Coach
So watching this series, and again today Smith seemingly not kicking off in his 2nd match innings, wondering when was the last time he scored a 3rd or 4th innings hundred.
2019, and that was a 3rd innings knock.
He's never scored a 4th innings hundred. Of the 7 other batsmen we look at as being in his class, he's the only one without a 4th innings century.
He also has the lowest 4th innings average of all of them.
He also has the lowest 2nd match innings average of all of them as well.
Obviously ignoring Bradman, averages in each march innings
Hobbs
56 | 67 | 35 | 57 (63.55 / 46.11)
Tendulkar
65 | 55 | 46 | 36 (60.10 / 42.78)
Richards
53 | 48 | 49 | 47 (50.79 / 48.82)
Sobers
57 | 61 | 57 | 46 (59.40 / 53.15)
Smith
83 | 49 | 40 | 32 (69.34 / 38.09)
Lara
70 | 59 | 40 | 35 (63.94 / 38.19)
Hutton
65 | 65 | 41 | 45 (65.40 / 43.04)
Make of that what you will, but it's one thing to set up a match, a totally different and equally vital to save or win it at the end.
A surprise?
Viv, same as his home and away stats, remarkably consistent numbers across innings.
2019, and that was a 3rd innings knock.
He's never scored a 4th innings hundred. Of the 7 other batsmen we look at as being in his class, he's the only one without a 4th innings century.
He also has the lowest 4th innings average of all of them.
He also has the lowest 2nd match innings average of all of them as well.
Obviously ignoring Bradman, averages in each march innings
Hobbs
56 | 67 | 35 | 57 (63.55 / 46.11)
Tendulkar
65 | 55 | 46 | 36 (60.10 / 42.78)
Richards
53 | 48 | 49 | 47 (50.79 / 48.82)
Sobers
57 | 61 | 57 | 46 (59.40 / 53.15)
Smith
83 | 49 | 40 | 32 (69.34 / 38.09)
Lara
70 | 59 | 40 | 35 (63.94 / 38.19)
Hutton
65 | 65 | 41 | 45 (65.40 / 43.04)
Make of that what you will, but it's one thing to set up a match, a totally different and equally vital to save or win it at the end.
A surprise?
Viv, same as his home and away stats, remarkably consistent numbers across innings.
DrWolverine
State Vice-Captain
Sunil Gavaskar : 42/60/48/58
Only player to score 200+ in all 4 innings
Only player to score 200+ in all 4 innings
The_CricketUmpire
State 12th Man
Different ball game when trying to win. Much more difficult. Smith for some reason falls away in the 3rd and 4th innings.
kyear2
International Coach
It's honestly a little troubling.
The_CricketUmpire
State 12th Man
Yep.
Sliferxxxx
School Boy/Girl Captain
I tell people all the time Viv was that guy and here is evidence yet again...
DrWolverine
State Vice-Captain
Perhaps the only flaw in his otherwise perfect record.
Coronis
International Coach
Yawn. Lara averages 38 (35 in the 4th innings) and nobody accuses him of a problem. Smith would have had a 4th innings ton against the Windies earlier this year while opening if someone could’ve stuck around (yes I know batting with the tail is a skill).
Hutton has 0 tons in the 4th innings compared to 3 for Sutcliffe. Should we rate him higher based on that fact alone?
Williamson of the Fab Four has by far the best record in the 4th innings with 5 tons. Nobody is even saying he’s top 2, people will argue he’s 4th of them.
Ponting has 4 tons in the 4th innings and averages 50. Better than Lara?
Hutton has 0 tons in the 4th innings compared to 3 for Sutcliffe. Should we rate him higher based on that fact alone?
Williamson of the Fab Four has by far the best record in the 4th innings with 5 tons. Nobody is even saying he’s top 2, people will argue he’s 4th of them.
Ponting has 4 tons in the 4th innings and averages 50. Better than Lara?
DrWolverine
State Vice-Captain
Steven Smith has a perfect record and almost no flaws that we have to nitpick small things like this or in Sachin’s case(not having monster series).
OverratedSanity
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First innings runs are significantly more valuable over a large sample size.
Johan
International Regular
He doesn't sleep during test matches apparently due to anxiety and nerves, that effects things.
DrWolverine
State Vice-Captain
I honestly do not think it is such a big deal
Even Bradman averages “less” in the fourth innings
I rate Smith number 2 among batsmen who played since 1948
Even Bradman averages “less” in the fourth innings
I rate Smith number 2 among batsmen who played since 1948