Sri Lanka in Australia thread

[Mister Wright]

So he can take a strong stand on someone being called a chucker, but can't when it comes to democracy. Great Prime Minister!

 

[Linda]

Where is implying the merest criticism and having a dig at a politician 'overreacting'?

I said "I think at the end of the day I probably agree with you, but on the plus side it sticks two fingers up at an idiot politician who should have known better."

Get that? PROBABLY AGREE WITH YOU.
But on the plus side, it sticks.... you can get the rest.

Why? 'An idiot who shouldve known better' didnt sit right with me. I personally dont think Howard should need to worry about his comment, or pay for it. I just personally dont see what the problem is with what the ol PM said. Youre probably not overreacting as such, but making a deal out of something I feel is not worth it.

Very true about TEC. But what did you expect?!

 

[Linda]

So he can take a strong stand on someone being called a chucker, but can't when it comes to democracy. Great Prime Minister!

Did I say 'personally' too much in that last post?! HAHA!

But anyway, come on, I wouldnt call a short comment a "strong stand".

 

[Mr. P]

People make comments like that about Murali every day. Forget that he is prime minister. Think of him as a PERSON. (I know, it's hard) In this case it had nothing to do with anything political and it shouldn't matter.

EDIT: I mean John Howard is Prime Minister, not Murali!

 

[Dasa]

So what if its not political? Just because hes the Prime Minister doesnt mean he cant answer a question about cricket.

Being the PM, he should be diplomatic and learn to offer no comment. However, little Johnny seems to have a problem with simple diplomacy.

People make comments like that about Murali every day. Forget that he is prime minister. Think of him as a PERSON. (I know, it's hard) In this case it had nothing to do with anything political and it shouldn't matter.

It wouldn't matter if he was just a person, but he is the PM, thus any comments he makes are bound to become public.

At any rate, I'm quite sure Howard made his comments in light of an election coming, many Australians would agree with him about Murali, so it's a cheap (but effective) way to get some votes.

 

[Mr. P]

Maybe Dasa, but for once I seriously doubt these comments were to do with the election.

It is also a fact that many other famous cricketers and peoples have come out and made comments similar to Howards, which have been just as public. I feel his words were over reacted to.

 

[luckyeddie]

People make comments like that about Murali every day. Forget that he is prime minister. Think of him as a PERSON. (I know, it's hard) In this case it had nothing to do with anything political and it shouldn't matter.

EDIT: I mean John Howard is Prime Minister, not Murali!

Murali only THINKS he is

 

[Dasa]

Maybe Dasa, but for once I seriously doubt these comments were to do with the election.

It is also a fact that many other famous cricketers and peoples have come out and made comments similar to Howards, which have been just as public. I feel his words were over reacted to.

We'll have to agree to disagree then.
At any rate, I understand and can sympathise with Murali's point of view, however, it seems very unfair on his team and country that he would pull out of this tour. Without him, Sri Lanka will be (I think) utterly humiliated, at least Murali could salvage some pride, if not the series.

 

[marc71178]

Come on, you can't become the world's leading wicket taker by taking cheap wickets against Bangladesh and Zimbabwe.

Why not?

All wickets count the same...

IMO, If Murali, played for South Africa, England, Australia, for example, the supporters of these countries would not be saying Murali chucks.

Erm, how many South Africans or Englishmen have accused him of being a chucker?

 

[badgerhair]

IMO, If Murali, played for South Africa, England, Australia, for example, the supporters of these countries would not be saying Murali chucks.

Interesting. Most of the people who say Kirtley chucks are English, it's New Zealanders who are most likely to wax lyrical about the kink in Kyle Mills's arm, and Australians most likely to say there's something odd about Brett Lee's.

Cheers,

Mike

 

[badgerhair]

Why not?

All wickets count the same...




Erm, how many South Africans or Englishmen have accused him of being a chucker?

I'd say a lot of Englishmen have called Murali a chucker. They may not have done so before he started chucking the doosra, a ball which is actually impossible to deliver with a fair action, but a lot say so now - at least when he uses the cheating delivery. Chris Broad, who reported him for it, used to play for England and probably counts as an Englishman too.

The doosra is an out-and-out chuck, and Murali very well knows it. He's not going to Australia because he doesn't feel like being reported again before they declare an amnesty for the ICC trophy and ICC can do a study and declare that chucking is now legal, or whatever it is that Dalmiya wants to happen.

A year ago, I admired Murali. However, his behaviour over the last few months has convinced me that he's nothing but a cheat.


Cheers,

Mike

 

[Sanz]

It is also a fact that many other famous cricketers and peoples have come out and made comments similar to Howards, which have been just as public. I feel his words were over reacted to.

But they are not the prime ministers of any country neither are they holding any post in the cricket boards of their country.

Would you like to visit a country where you will be abused at every step and whose Prime minister calls you a thief ??

It's not just cricket, Murali will be targeted in Australia, he will be booed, called names and I think he has made the right decision. If I were in his shoes, I will never land a foot in that country. They deserve it.

 

[Sanz]

... or whatever it is that Dalmiya wants to happen.

Dalmiya ??

 

[badgerhair]

It's not just cricket, Murali will be targeted in Australia, he will be booed, called names and I think he has made the right decision. If I were in his shoes, I will never land a foot in that country. They deserve it.

Oooo, ickle diddums doesn't like the nasty boys and girls calling him names. If that's how Australian cricketers felt, they'd never tour England, and vice versa.

It's just pathetic.

I wonder if he's ever considered bowling with a fair action as a method of silencing the abuse.

Cheers,

Mke

 

[Kenny]

But they are not the prime ministers of any country neither are they holding any post in the cricket boards of their country.

Would you like to visit a country where you will be abused at every step and whose Prime minister calls you a thief ??

It's not just cricket, Murali will be targeted in Australia, he will be booed, called names and I think he has made the right decision. If I were in his shoes, I will never land a foot in that country. They deserve it.

The PM called him a chucker, not a thief......and what do you mean 'They deserve it'??
Most Aussie cricket fans couldn't give a toss whether he comes or not - in fact most are probably glad he's not.
And Aussie crowds are absolutely right in booing him and calling 'no-ball'.....at least we have the courage to tell the truth.

 

[Sanz]

The PM called him a chucker, not a thief......and what do you mean 'They deserve it'??
Most Aussie cricket fans couldn't give a toss whether he comes or not - in fact most are probably glad he's not.

If they dont give a toss, then what are they whining about, every newspaper, every internet website is full of people like you puring all the venom you could and this itself is a proof enough that you care a lot. I am sure Aussie crowd is going to miss him more so because murali has spoilt their plans to abuse him and harrass him.

As for Howard calling Murali a 'Cheat' and not a 'thief', well what's the difference.

And Aussie crowds are absolutely right in booing him and calling 'no-ball'.....at least we have the courage to tell the truth.

Are you telling me that everyone of the Drunks in the crowd ( booing Murali and calling 'No ball' before Murali completes his run-up ) can spot a no-ball ?? If that is the case then I guess there is no need for the field umpire to stand in the Ground, let him sit in the stands do the job.

As for telling the truth and Courage of some australian fans, I know all about it, Let's not even go there, we know all about it.

BTW, Have you heard of an organization called ICC and some people in the field called UMPIRES ??

 

[Sanz]

Oooo, ickle diddums doesn't like the nasty boys and girls calling him names. If that's how Australian cricketers felt, they'd never tour England, and vice versa.

It's just pathetic.

I wonder if he's ever considered bowling with a fair action as a method of silencing the abuse.

Cheers,

Mke

Mike, do you seriously think it is as simple as some nasty boys/girls booing/calling-names to aussies in England ??

Do you really think that Aussie crowd will Shut Up,even if he bowls with a fair action ??

 

[luckyeddie]

My position as poster of the most puerile messages on CW on a regular basis is in some serious doubt at the moment, I can see - only I do it on purpose.

Some of you guys are naturals.

 

[a massive zebra]

Oooo, ickle diddums doesn't like the nasty boys and girls calling him names. If that's how Australian cricketers felt, they'd never tour England, and vice versa.

It's just pathetic.

I wonder if he's ever considered bowling with a fair action as a method of silencing the abuse.

You know perfectly well there is more to it than that. Being subject to persistent personal abuse by thousands is offensive and gets you down. Im sure you would not be able to deal with the amount of criticism Murali has received in such a situation. The abuse Ashes teams get is completely different - its pure patriotism and is not remotely personal. Furthermore, the Australians were taumenting him about his action well before the doosra came about when he was bowling only his off-spinner which was was proven to be fair.

 

[a massive zebra]

A year ago, I admired Murali. However, his behaviour over the last few months has convinced me that he's nothing but a cheat.

And your behaviour on this forum has convinced me that you are an arrogant, patronising, up yourself fool who always feels he is right.