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South Africa team selection
- Thread starter StephenZA
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SeamUp
International Coach
Steyn definitely won't carry on and Amla isn't even a certainty for this WC. Only leaves Faf but he has said many times before this will be the end for quite a few players 50-over careers. Rather take some losses and start the 4-year build ? 2023 WC in SA ?
https://www.sport24.co.za/Cricket/Proteas/post-cwc-proteas-must-retain-some-veterans-20190411
https://www.sport24.co.za/Cricket/Proteas/post-cwc-proteas-must-retain-some-veterans-20190411
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StephenZA
Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
The ODI team will change after WC. Probably include the new generation of up and coming batsmen. T20 become a little stable with the upcoming WC. Test team won’t change much, will be interesting to see what happens there though. Faf hang onto all the captaincies? Or will it become split? And will there be a new coach?
SeamUp
International Coach
I'm looking forward to the ODI re-build even if there is a slow start.
Test team. Still fuming how the test summer ended. It's the format I care most about. It was pretty embarassing. Markram & de Kock can become great batsmen. What I'm looking foward to the most for the test team. Bowling will be interesting. Philander/Steyn how long can their greatness go on for ? Philander might not even play in India. Ngidi on their backs & will likely start in India over Vernon.
Test team. Still fuming how the test summer ended. It's the format I care most about. It was pretty embarassing. Markram & de Kock can become great batsmen. What I'm looking foward to the most for the test team. Bowling will be interesting. Philander/Steyn how long can their greatness go on for ? Philander might not even play in India. Ngidi on their backs & will likely start in India over Vernon.
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MrPrez
International Debutant
I think I've said this before but I'd like QDK to give up the gloves and focus on becoming a specialist batsman - ABDV style. Not that he's not a great gloveman but given we have guys like Qeshile and Verreyne coming through, I think we should give up his glovework and focus on getting him in as a top/middle order batsman.
I'd like to see something like
Markram
Elgar
Hamza
Faf
QDK
Mulder
Verreyne (wk)
Maharaj
<spinner?>
Steyn
Rabada
A team the selectors are more likely to consider would be
Markram
Elgar
Amla
Faf
Bavuma
QDK
Mulder
Maharaj
<spinner>
Steyn
Rabada
Although they may well not play Mulder at all and include whichever batsman they consider next in line. I could live with it if they picked Verreyne over Mulder.
Not quite sure which spinner is in line for the second spot? Piedt?
SeamUp
International Coach
We can't close ourselves off like in Sri Lanka. They didn't back Shamsi. Will they Piedt ?
SeamUp
International Coach
My only concern is that it might take away from QdK's game ? But we got to expect there is a real possibility it may have to happen for the reasons you say.
It will be Piedt. Can't see them trusting Shamsi.
MrPrez
International Debutant
Fair point. i just feel that both Verreyne and QDK will be SA test players sooner rather than later. Meaning one will need to give up the gloves. While I rate Verreyne, QdK seems more likely to become a genuine 45+ test average batsman if nurtured correctly. We could really choose to go either way though.
Qeshile will inevitably get his chance in the coming years, but given that he's likely to give up the gloves to Rudi Second this year, I imagine he'll already be a specialist batsman by that time.
MrPrez
International Debutant
Long-term we've actually got a pretty good selection of future batsmen. Hamza, Bedingham, Verreyne, Qeshile, alongside other possibilities like Rickelton, Janneman Malan, and Breetzke. Markram and QDK are already established and should be around for a long time too. Add Mulder to the mix, as well as any new youngsters in the next few years, and we've got a good choice of players.
The trick, as always, will be how we develop them.
The trick, as always, will be how we develop them.
MrPrez
International Debutant
Forgot about van Tonder. Haven't seen him in action, if I'm honest. Are Bedingham and Malan unlikely to make it?
SeamUp
International Coach
I wouldn't be writing anyone off.
Just from viewing and pedigree I am convinced Breetzke and van Tonder have everything in their game potential wise to become greats.
Van Tonder is strong bottom hand but is another that looks to have most shots covered and adaptable to conditions. Really impressed watching him in Sri Lanka playing spin on the emerging tour last winter. He is an apetite for big runs.
StephenZA
Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
I know it is a difficult thing because top quality openers are rare, but I really think Markram needs to be batting 4 long term. I`m unsure if that will ever happen, but if we can find a couple of new openers I think it would be great for him and SA. Just throwing the name in there because he has looked good and looks really talented is K Petersen. I do think we have a number of talented batsmen running around. The only player I see as definite right now would probably be Mulder, everybody else has to force their way into the team with runs.
I wonder what de Bruyns future is? Or if they just go back to Hamza and also I wonder how much Gibson is influencing selection and will he stay on?
I wonder what de Bruyns future is? Or if they just go back to Hamza and also I wonder how much Gibson is influencing selection and will he stay on?
StephenZA
Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Piedt must be a show in by now. Can even add some runs. I wonder is Muthusamy has a shot at an all rounder spot in place of Mulder for India?
StephenZA
Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
QDK needs to stay at 7 (maybe 6). I think it suits his temperament and I think he likes keeping. If we can put together a strong top 6, a fast scoring QDK coming in at 7 will be devastating for most bowling attacks. Can turn 300/5 scores to 450/6 scores in a session.
Dendarii
International Debutant
I think there are two things which count against Muthusamy. One is that he's the same type of bowler as Maharaj, so they might prefer someone else to give some variety. The other is that his batting possibly isn't quite good enough for a top 7 position - he'd be great as an 8, but I'm not sure whether he should bat higher.