Ricky Ponting vs Joe Root

[subshakerz]

wait that series had McGrath?

It didn't.

 

[Johan]

I genuinely thought while replying McG meant MacGill......

...

 

[Prince EWS]

I genuinely thought while replying McG meant MacGill......

Runs against MacGill, the ultimate test.

 

[L Trumper]

Also I find it funny that Aus 2005 is used as an example of a good series for Lara when it's basically just the 226 knock.

Whereas I don't think we would call Tendulkar in Aus in 2003 a 'good series' despite him averaging 76 when he was struggling in the first three tests before he scored his double.

Do you call Tendulkar in Aus in 1999 a 'good series' ? That was his only series against Mcgrath in Aus and his output matches Lara's in 2005 which according to you is not good.

Comparing Aus 2003 series which is a batter's paradise with Australia's worst bowling lineup in the last 3 decades with any attack Lara faced in Aus is a joke.

Then again all your arguments boil down to Lara bad, Ambrose bad.

 

[subshakerz]

Do you call Tendulkar in Aus in 1999 a 'good series' ? That was his only series against Mcgrath in Aus and his output matches Lara's in 2005 which according to you is not good.

Yes Tendulkar in 99 was a good series. He was MOS so kind of hard not to call it good.

Comparing Aus 2003 series which is a batter's paradise with Australia's worst bowling lineup in the last 3 decades with any attack Lara faced in Aus is a joke.

I'm not comparing them and Aus 2005 for Lara is obviously better because of McWarne.

I am just saying that having one meaningful score in an entire series doesn't necessarily make that a good series. Why is that controversial?

Lara averaged 83 against England at home in 2004 but that was basically down to a single 400* knock and he didn't do much else for the first three test which WI lost. Was that a good series in your book? If so we disagree

 

[OverratedSanity]

Do you call Tendulkar in Aus in 1999 a 'good series' ? That was his only series against Mcgrath in Aus and his output matches Lara's in 2005 which according to you is not good.

Can't just look at overall runs and say the output was the same. Tendulkar had a ton, two other fifties, and top scored in another low scoring innings with a fluent 40 odd. Much more consistent series than Lara who just had one great double ton but nothing else.

Also don't think the 03/04 Australia attack was as bad as people make it out to be at all but I don't rate that Tendulkar double hundred highly anyway.

 

[subshakerz]

Can't just look at overall runs and say the output was the same. Tendulkar had a ton, two other fifties, and top scored in another low scoring innings with a fluent 40 odd. Much more consistent series than Lara who just had one great double ton but nothing else.

Also don't think the 03/04 Australia attack was as bad as people make it out to be at all but I don't rate that Tendulkar double hundred highly anyway.

Yes.

You need some baseline consistency of scores across a series to justify calling it a good series and not just a mega knock that offsets your average.

 

[L Trumper]

Yes.

You need some baseline consistency of scores across a series to justify calling it a good series and not just a mega knock that offsets your average.

What difference does it make, both lost 3-0.

And if you want to baseline consistency check Lara's scores in last 3 matches of the 2000 tours those are the three ground Tendulkar played in 1999 and again both their outputs are same.

 

[Burgey]

Never lost a wink of sleep worrying about Joe Root in an Ashes test, home or away. He's a workmanlike trier, and there's nothing wrong with that as far as it gets him, which isn't very far at all in the all-timer stakes.

That god-awful dab cut just makes him a walking wicket on faster wickets with a bit of pace in them.

The fact he's the best batsman England has had the past decade is an indictment on them, not a compliment to him. He isn't fit to carry the black water from the septic tank on Ponting's third rural property.

 

[subshakerz]

What difference does it make, both lost 3-0.

And if you want to baseline consistency check Lara's scores in last 3 matches of the 2000 tours those are the three ground Tendulkar played in 1999 and again both their outputs are same.

Its only relevant to what you consider a 'good series' and you would expect a smattering of meaningful contributions.

And why would I look at Lara's last three 2000 games when we know he was owned by McGrath in the first two. Lara in 2000 pretty much was just the Adelaide knock and nothing else.

 

[Burgey]

averages 44 at home against Australia

Cute

 

[L Trumper]

Its only relevant to what you consider a 'good series' and you would expect a smattering of meaningful contributions.

And why would I look at Lara's last three 2000 games when we know he was owned by McGrath in the first two. Lara in 2000 pretty much was just the Adelaide knock and nothing else.

Why should that be the case ? Wouldn't one big score helps team a lot more in winning a single test than meaningful scores that leads nowhere.

Again these discussions are academic, in real world both lost 3-0. So it doesn't really matter.

 

[subshakerz]

Why should that be the case ? Wouldn't one big score helps team a lot more in winning a single test than meaningful scores that leads nowhere.

Again these discussions are academic, in real world both lost 3-0. So it doesn't really matter.

One big score is a good match, not a good series.

 

[honestbharani]

In that series in 2005-06, Lara was only really out like 3 times. He was sawn off 3 or 4 times, so there is that.

 

[subshakerz]

In that series in 2005-06, Lara was only really out like 3 times. He was sawn off 3 or 4 times, so there is that.

Yeah he did cop a couple of bad decisions.

 

[GIMH]

Never lost a wink of sleep worrying about Joe Root in an Ashes test, home or away. He's a workmanlike trier,

What an absolute pile of manure this is.

Never worried about Joe Root. I guess that must have been Australia’s tactic at Trent Bridge in 2015 when they batted first and yet Joe Root had outscored them 2:1 by the close of day one. Just one example of Joe Root flaying Australia in England’s green and pleasant land.

He’ll average 75+ in this year’s Ashes and you’ll have a Martin Place II on your hands. You absolute buffoon.

 

[Coronis]

He’ll average 75+ in this year’s Ashes

I’d like to bet against this.

 

[GIMH]

I’d like to bet against this.

then bet against it

 

[Coronis]

then bet against it

How much you wanna go?

 

[sayon basak]

How much you wanna go?

Life.