Red_Ink_Squid
Global Moderator
For this comparison, Ponting played 18 years. Sizeable gap at the mo.
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Ricky Ponting vs Joe Root
- Thread starter DrWolverine
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capt_Luffy
Cricketer Of The Year
You voted for the Aussie?????
Red_Ink_Squid
Global Moderator
Of course not!! Just that we'll all be able see much clearer that Root is the superior player in a few years time when he's dominated for longer than Ponting did.
subshakerz
Hall of Fame Member
Root still doesn't have a ton in Australia. That's just sad. Disqualifying.
TestMatch
U19 Cricketer
And Root has had about 14 tests in Australia- a big sample size for no tons.
Meanwhile his contemporaries like Smith effortlessly score in England. Think Smith's twin tons on a tricky pitch in Edgbaston, when Root failed.
Ponting too, while a bit mediocre in England, managed about 4 tons there.
Still, it's a bit too early to fully judge people like Root. He may have a good upcoming series in Australia and reverse all opinions.
Meanwhile his contemporaries like Smith effortlessly score in England. Think Smith's twin tons on a tricky pitch in Edgbaston, when Root failed.
Ponting too, while a bit mediocre in England, managed about 4 tons there.
Still, it's a bit too early to fully judge people like Root. He may have a good upcoming series in Australia and reverse all opinions.
Johan
International Regular
don't think a Smith comparision does either any pluses, as I reckon Smith currently blows either Ponting or Root out of the water and it'd almost certainly stay that way
Regardless, I don't think having one ton in Australia makes Root a better batter than he is, a big series? sure, individual number of tons is mostly just a meaningless statistic.
I'd argue that Ponting in India is worse than Root anywhere, and Root is better in almost every other nation in comparision to Ponting, right now, by say 2027 I don't think this would be much of a comparision if he does have the big series in Australia.
Ponting is only a competitor as long as Root has that Australia hole in that record, if that's fixed I don't see how this will even be debateable. so I think in 2025 this conversation would probably have more discussion than few years later.
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subshakerz
Hall of Fame Member
Root doesn't just suffer in Australia but averages only 40 overall against Aus.
Given that the Ashes really is his ultimate challenge as an English cricketer, he needs to improve this record otherwise it's going to hold him back in this comparison.
Given that the Ashes really is his ultimate challenge as an English cricketer, he needs to improve this record otherwise it's going to hold him back in this comparison.
subshakerz
Hall of Fame Member
Ponting did better in England than Root in Aus and had a monster 2007 series at home beyond anything Root has done.
Again let's leave this until Root tours Aus. Another poor series and this comparison is done.
Johan
International Regular
The 2007 series was against a done and dusted England lineup where the series wasn't even competitive, whenever the ashes was competitive Ponting dissapeared, anyway I don't think 2007 Ashes is better than Root's Man of the series performance. Ponting is definitely better in England than Root is in Australia but Ponting in India is worse than Root anywhere, and that's horrible because it was India that the mighty Australian team declared their final frontier.
Anyway Yeah I'm willing to leave this until Root gets a century or two in Australia, but Ponting's ashes record does him no favours.
sayon basak
International Vice-Captain
Are you sure he'll get one or two centuries in AUS?
Johan
International Regular
**** with how desperate he sounded in his last interview, I hope so, and he probably will Yeah
subshakerz
Hall of Fame Member
Ponting in India was a horror show though he had respectable returns towards the end but Ponting did very well against Murali and never gets his full due for that.
I just think Australia for Root is a bit more important than India for Ponting.
Johan
International Regular
I don't know what's that supposed to mean? Root also did very well in South Africa in 2016, that doesn't erase his record in Australia, I think Ponting before 2001 was pretty skilled against spin tbh.
Probably, Australia remains the only hole in Root's record, but as you once said all you need to fix a statistic is a great series, like Lara and Tendulkar in south Africa, so let's see if he does it too
Silver Silva
International Regular
Joe Root has to fix his Ashes record in Australia to come into this conversation against a certified run machine in Punter , I think Root is a better player of spin bowling though.
Johan
International Regular
Punter is a better player of bounce and pace imo but Root far superior against lateral movement.
capt_Luffy
Cricketer Of The Year
I would have granted you that had he himself fixed his India record