wahindiawah
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Yet he cannot retain his place in test side, and that has something to do with his poor performance!Arrow said:
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wahindiawah
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But he talks alot, is a self-loving person and often talk crap.SJS said:
However the important thing is that lately(since some time) i haven't seen him trying to break the 100 MPH record. Also Shoaib has said a number of times that he's now more interested in taking wkts then bowler faster.
wahindiawah
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Nah, that has nothing to do with the topic.marc71178 said:
I had all the reason to mention Pathan. Pathan has won praises from former Pak cric like Imran and Akram for his talent,good hard work positive attitude .Interestingly the 2 former players have been targetting Akhtar coz of his attitude so much so that Akhtar has asked Akram as to why can't he encourage him (like he encourages Pathan) for a change.
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Wasim should keep his views to himself: Shoaib
By Our Sports Reporter
ISLAMABAD, Jan 31: Shoaib Akhtar on Monday hit back at former captain Wasim Akram and said that there was a lobby conspiring against him. "I have been made the scapegoat whenever something goes wrong," he told journalists at the Diamond Cricket Ground.
"I respect Wasim very much, he was a great bowler but his comments that I was no longer a match-winner have really hurt me; I would say that he should keep his views to himself. "If you pick up the records when Wasim was the captain, you would know who was taking most of the wickets.
Shoaib was surprised that while Wasim was so generous in his praise of India's Irfan Pathan, why could he not support and encourage his own countrymen
wahindiawah
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BTW, the article was taken from Pak newspaper Dawn.
I do agree with Akram on the fact that Akhtar should improve his fitness but i think Akram is too harsh on Akhtar , as no cricketer in this world can alone win matches for his team, particularly when a team isn't even capable of putting up a score of above 150 in test matches.
I do agree with Akram on the fact that Akhtar should improve his fitness but i think Akram is too harsh on Akhtar , as no cricketer in this world can alone win matches for his team, particularly when a team isn't even capable of putting up a score of above 150 in test matches.
wahindiawah
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SJS said:
Agreed. Also Pathan's commitment to the game is admirable.
Vikas Bhatt
School Boy/Girl Cricketer
Shoaib Akhter may be a total @**hole and a show boat and a prima donna and not a team man and all that crap, but fact is you Pakistan needs him for the Indian tour and without him and half your bowlers unfit, Pak will be looking at a very humiliating series!
amokk1
U19 12th Man
Last time when Aktar toured Australia back in 1999/2000, he has Wasim and Waqar and Saqlain to bowl with him. He only took 6 wickets in 3 matches.
Not every impressive. But, it reflects even when top class bowlers do give him support....he still can't take wickets. I guess it's a pretty poor compairson to make for one series.
BUT, He is all talk, no action. Wasim and Waqar are correct. Look at the scorecards of the 1999 series and see how Wasim and Waqar got more wickets them him. Pakistan don't need him. THey got better bowlers.
btw to my Aussies friends out there....is slippers called phongs or thongs ?
lol
Not every impressive. But, it reflects even when top class bowlers do give him support....he still can't take wickets. I guess it's a pretty poor compairson to make for one series.
BUT, He is all talk, no action. Wasim and Waqar are correct. Look at the scorecards of the 1999 series and see how Wasim and Waqar got more wickets them him. Pakistan don't need him. THey got better bowlers.
btw to my Aussies friends out there....is slippers called phongs or thongs ?
lol
dudeurfriend
School Boy/Girl Captain
Pakistan do need Shoiabh... If he can learn to control his behaviour(on and off the field)and Aim at bowling Accurately(Rather than express)then he would be more effective......amokk1 said:
honestbharani
Whatever it takes!!!
There is no questioning his talent, but the temperament is a big doubt.
wahindiawah
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What rubbish are you talking? That tour happened to be the first of of Aus by Akhtar, Akhtar wasn't able to adjust to the condition and as such he struggled.You can't just give one particular example to suit ur example.Also if i remember correctly Akram did do wonders in that tour and Waqar wasn't even played in all the matches as Akram didn't like him.amokk1 said:
Akhtar toured Aus b/f the 2003 WC and won the OD series for Pak by destroying Australia singlehandedly (almost)
Akhtar destroyed Waugh's men in the test match played in Sharjah( he took like 5-15 wkts which were described by Steven Waugh as the best spell in the history of Test matches) but still wasn't able to win the test match for Pak as their club level batters were bowl out for 50+ score.
Even in the just concluded test series Akhtar performed well in the first two test matches, it was Pak batters that lost the test matches to Aus and not Akhtar.
Yeah, Akhtar should be criticize for losing his heart too easily and not being a committed cricketer till the end of a series. I guess he gets frustated to see his good work being spoiled by half-skilled Pakistani batters, but then again there is no justification for not giving ur best for ur side till the very end.
wahindiawah
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Then name the better pacers?amokk1 said:
Sami? why isn't he being criticized for being a failure all his life and for being injury prone? I guess coz noone expect much from him as everyone knows that he's crap.
Shabbir and Gul haven't done anything worthwhile in test matches and Rana's test performance has been really pathetic.
amokk1
U19 12th Man
I Agree, He is a very good bowler but his bowling does not justify what comes out of his mouth. Even, Wasim Akarm and Waqar Yonis both whom I rate very highly off critisize him as well. Even the Pakistan board is concerned about Shoaib's conduct during the Australia Series. Even there was speculation that he was the character involved in the rape case during the boxing day test match.
"ISLAMABAD, Jan 24: Pakistan speedster Shoaib Akhtar is likely to be grilled thoroughly over his alleged involvement in last month's rape case in Melbourne, if the Chairman of the Pakistan Cricket Board (PCB) Shaharyar Khan is to be believed."
http://www1.cricket.indiatimes.com/articleshow/999944.cms
http://thatscricket.indiainfo.com/2005/odi_series/vbseries/2101akhtar.html
http://web.mid-day.com/sports/international/2005/january/102046.htm
I refuse to believe that such a bowler with such quality could do something like that, but with his past track records I have my doubts. He just comes talks his mouth off, bowls fast and gets injured. That's a fact. He refuses to shorten up his run up even for the sake of the team and slows down the whole over rate. He is not a team player, but an individual just wants to break speed records.
Mate, he needs to change his attitude. Even when he was injured during the Pakistan series against India last year, people thought he faked it. What does that reflect about him?
He has promised more then he can deliver. If I was in charge, I would drop him and let someone else have a go. The Pakistan bowling does not revolve around him.
Naved-ul-Hasan took 4 wickets in the last match against West Indies and can also bat down the order. His test records might not reflect his true talent yet, but give him some time. Pakistan have had a reputation of producing fast bowlers. They don't need Shoaib.
"ISLAMABAD, Jan 24: Pakistan speedster Shoaib Akhtar is likely to be grilled thoroughly over his alleged involvement in last month's rape case in Melbourne, if the Chairman of the Pakistan Cricket Board (PCB) Shaharyar Khan is to be believed."
http://www1.cricket.indiatimes.com/articleshow/999944.cms
http://thatscricket.indiainfo.com/2005/odi_series/vbseries/2101akhtar.html
http://web.mid-day.com/sports/international/2005/january/102046.htm
I refuse to believe that such a bowler with such quality could do something like that, but with his past track records I have my doubts. He just comes talks his mouth off, bowls fast and gets injured. That's a fact. He refuses to shorten up his run up even for the sake of the team and slows down the whole over rate. He is not a team player, but an individual just wants to break speed records.
Mate, he needs to change his attitude. Even when he was injured during the Pakistan series against India last year, people thought he faked it. What does that reflect about him?
He has promised more then he can deliver. If I was in charge, I would drop him and let someone else have a go. The Pakistan bowling does not revolve around him.
Naved-ul-Hasan took 4 wickets in the last match against West Indies and can also bat down the order. His test records might not reflect his true talent yet, but give him some time. Pakistan have had a reputation of producing fast bowlers. They don't need Shoaib.
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