Ranking the Batsmen

[adharcric]

Hobbs and Tendulkar tied with 6 apiece.
This better not come down to my last-minute vote again (like it did for Sobers).

 

[shortpitched713]

Lara. For reasons mentioned.

 

[a massive zebra]

Hobbs

 

[oz_fan]

3. Hobbs

 

[Dravid]

Booooooo..Tendulkar should win this. C mon vote for Sachin!!

 

[Matt79]

Booooooo..Tendulkar should win this. C mon vote for Sachin!!

Why, given that Hobbs has a better average, sustained over a longer period, as an opener rather than middle order player, in an era that was much much tougher for batsmen, what with uncovered pitches etc.?

 

[Dravid]

Stats don't mean a lot to me, so don't bring in the avgs of the two players.. Because if they did then Mike Hussey would be #2. I'm talking Skills wise, and you guys talk like Sachin never had to go through good bowlers. He's been playing since 89 you know.

 

[Matt79]

I'm not dissing Sachin, I'm just saying that I think there have possibly been a small hand full of players in the history of cricket who have been better than him. Hobbs would be near the top of that small list.

 

[Johnners]

Booooooo..Tendulkar should win this. C mon vote for Sachin!!

Clearly he shouldn't, otherwise more people would've voted for him

 

[nightprowler10]

Hobbs quite easily for me.

 

[R_D]

Why, given that Hobbs has a better average, sustained over a longer period, as an opener rather than middle order player, in an era that was much much tougher for batsmen, what with uncovered pitches etc.?

But were there any good bowlers back than tho ?
Fact that he played until he was almost 50 shows the quality of cricket in that age.
Some of these guys shouldn't really be rated that highly unless you did something ex-traordinary like Bradman.

 

[Jono]

Why would there be no good bowlers? That makes no sense.

 

[R_D]

Why would there be no good bowlers? That makes no sense.

General Standard of bowling... how many great or good bowlers played in that era ?
I'm not specfically saying to Hobbs but the general standard of bowling wasn't that great.

 

[silentstriker]

Why would there be no good bowlers? That makes no sense.

In general, I am not sure if the standard level of cricket itself was all that great. You can tell by vast differences in averages of players, as well as the fact that they continued playing for so long.

IMO you really need to be very easily heads and shoulders above your peers for me to rate you. Hobbs does make it, because he fulfilled that criteria but I can't put him ahead of Chappell/Lara/Sachin/Viv, etc because of when he played.

 

[Boggvir]

Sachin

 

[adharcric]

Hobbs 9, Tendulkar 7 ... half a day to go

 

[Jono]

In general, I am not sure if the standard level of cricket itself was all that great. You can tell by vast differences in averages of players, as well as the fact that they continued playing for so long.

IMO you really need to be very easily heads and shoulders above your peers for me to rate you. Hobbs does make it, because he fulfilled that criteria but I can't put him ahead of Chappell/Lara/Sachin/Viv, etc because of when he played.

Yeah but why is there no good bowlers, but good batsman? That's illogical.

 

[Matt79]

Pre-WWI there were several bowlers ranked among the all time greats - Barnes, Spoffoth, Lohman, Turner. Between the wars there were many others, including Grimmett and O'Reilly. There's a general point about the talent pool of international cricket being shallower, but there's the counterveilling point about the quality of pitches and batting equipment.

 

[honestbharani]

Well, first off, I am not gonna rank the guys I haven't seen. I mean, we all know of the REAL great amongst greats like Bradman, Sobers, Hobbs etc. But among the other guys like Greg Chappell, Gavaskar, Richards and all, I feel that one has to have seen guys in action to rate them as better than any of the others. So I am just gonna rank the guys that I have seen in action from that list.



1. Brian Lara
2. Sachin Tendulkar
3. Steve Waugh
4. Ricky Ponting
4. Rahul Dravid
6. Javed Miandad
7. Jacques Kallis
8. Allan Border
9. Martin Crowe
10. Matthew Hayden
11. Adam Gilchrist
12. Andy Flower
13. Inzamum Ul Huq
14. Saeed Anwar

 

[honestbharani]

sorry guys, got the concept of the thread a little too late here.


I am gonna go with Hobbs.