Quick World ATG XI draft- No Bradman

[Dan]

First half of Botham's career put him in the category of an ATG! And longevity definitely puts him ahead of Procter...

Procter's career lasted 24 years. Botham (only?) lasted 15..

 

[kingkallis]

So Hick & Ramps will be ahead of Thorpe just cause they have better FC careers?

 

[Dan]

So Hick & Ramps will be ahead of Thorpe just cause they have better FC careers?

No, because they were proven mediocre at Test level.

Procter performed at every International opportunity he had, unlike Hick and Ramps.

 

[watson]

STEVE WAUGH

Bit worried about Steve and Curtly being in the same dressing though. Bit tense.

 

[zaremba]

No, because they were proven mediocre at Test level.

Procter performed at every International opportunity he had, unlike Hick and Ramps.

Agreed. Hick and Ramps' issues at Test level were immediately apparent. They both debuted in 1991 against the West Indies and struggled straight away.

Procter played in two series, 1967 and 1970, against the best team in the world, Australia. While admittedly he didn't do much with the bat, averaging only 25, over the course of 7 matches he took 43 wickets at an average of 15. That suggests someone who's comfortable at Test level. Couple that with his outstanding first class record and you have a player who would surely have made it at Test level in a very big way.

 

[kingkallis]

No, because they were proven mediocre at Test level.

Procter performed at every International opportunity he had, unlike Hick and Ramps.

Agreed! Hick and Ramps

 

[watson]

Agreed. Hick and Ramps' issues at Test level were immediately apparent. They both debuted in 1991 against the West Indies and struggled straight away.

Procter played in two series, 1967 and 1970, against the best team in the world, Australia. While admittedly he didn't do much with the bat, averaging only 25, over the course of 7 matches he took 43 wickets at an average of 15. That suggests someone who's comfortable at Test level. Couple that with his outstanding first class record and you have a player who would surely have made it at Test level in a very big way.

Actually, the best team in the world in 1970 was England. Illingworth captained Boycott, Edrich, Snow, Underwood et al at their peak. Quite some team!

 

[kyear2]

Jim Laker

Bruce Mitchell

 

[Dan]

Agreed! Hick and Ramps

Two of the most frustrating English batsmen ever. Should have been gun.

Doesn't help that they were dropped every five minutes and screwed around with for their whole careers..

 

[watson]

richie benaud

 

[watson]

1.
2.
3. Greg Chappell
4.
5.
6. Steve Waugh
7.
8. Richie Benaud (captain)
9. Wasim Akram
10. Curtly Ambrose
11. Glen McGrath

 

[zaremba]

Actually, the best team in the world in 1970 was England. Illingworth captained Boycott, Edrich, Snow, Underwood et al at their peak. Quite some team!

You're right - and this is the context in which Procter's pre-eminence in County Cricket needs to be seen.

Oh and in 1967 it had been the West Indies who had been world no.1. But hey.

 

[kyear2]

Can i edit my pick to Bobby Simpson or is it to late?

 

[watson]

Can i edit my pick to Bobby Simpson or is it to late?

I've made some errors in my selections so far. Too bad. If we start to chop and change things then it could get chaotic.

Consider our selection game like 'touch move' in chess.

Although it's MONKS call, and I'm happy whatever his decision.

 

[Jager]

1.
2.
3. Greg Chappell
4.
5.
6. Steve Waugh
7.
8. Richie Benaud (captain)
9. Wasim Akram
10. Curtly Ambrose
11. Glen McGrath

Bloody nice bowling lineup for sure.

 

[smash84]

yeah....the creme de la creme of the 90s

 

[Himannv]

Can i edit my pick to Bobby Simpson or is it to late?

I'm not really against this itbt.

 

[zaremba]

Yeah if kyear wants Simpson let him have him I reckon

 

[smash84]

if somebody else has made a pick after him then I don't think he should be allowed to change it

 

[zaremba]

I suppose that's right. Decent chance he'll get Simpson next round anyway.