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Quick World ATG XI draft- No Bradman

watson

watson

Banned
Jager said:
Bloody nice bowling lineup for sure.
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Yes, but I'm true allrounder short. Sobers, Kallis, or Faulkner would have slot very nicely indeed into the No.6 slot (to state the bleeding obvious). Incidently, I made a gamble/assumption that Faulkner would go in the later rounds and lost. Although, on the other hand I still have great batting depth, and both Waugh and Chappell weren't complete mugs with the ball. They could easily tie up one end for half-an-hour (and possibly get a wicket) while Curtly and Wasim grab a breather. Glen the 'Metronome' and Richie can bowl 'all day' anyways.

I suppose this opens up another debate. Does a team need 5 specialist bowlers to win Test Matches? After all, the West Indies (1980s), Australia (1970s), and Australia (2000s) only carried 4 specialist bowlers and had Lloyd, Walters, and Waugh batting at No.6 respectively. I think that Graham Gooch's point is a valid one (he was commenting about playing Alec Stewart as a keeper rather than opener). England in the 1990s needed the full 5 bowlers because they weren't in the class of Holding, Lillee, or McGrath. If you don't have quality then you obviously need quantity. I probably have a quality attack.

Will still be a little creative with my subsequent picks (?) if possible.
 
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watson said:
Yes, but I'm true allrounder short. Sobers, Kallis, or Faulkner would have slot very nicely indeed into the No.6 slot (to state the bleeding obvious). Incidently, I made a gamble/assumption that Faulkner would go in the later rounds and lost. Although, on the other hand I still have great batting depth, and both Waugh and Chappell weren't complete mugs with the ball. They could easily tie up one end for half-an-hour (and possibly get a wicket) while Curtly and Wasim grab a breather. Glen the 'Metronome' and Richie can bowl 'all day' anyways.

I suppose this opens up another debate. Does a team need 5 specialist bowlers to win Test Matches? After all, the West Indies (1980s), Australia (1970s), and Australia (2000s) only carried 4 specialist bowlers and had Lloyd, Walters, and Waugh batting at No.6 respectively. I think that Graham Gooch's point is a valid one (he was commenting about playing Alec Stewart as a keeper rather than opener). England in the 1990s needed the full 5 bowlers because they weren't in the class of Holding, Lillee, or McGrath. If you don't have quality then you obviously need quantity. I probably have a quality attack.

Will still be a little creative with my subsequent picks (?) if possible.
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I don't think you need an all rounder as a 5th bowler with the attack you have. As you say, Steve Waugh and Chappell were handy med pacers in their day.
 
kingkallis

kingkallis

International Coach
Allan Border to captain my side...

CricZo XI

1. Sunil Gavaskar
2.
3.
4.
5. Allan Border ( c )
6. Ian Botham
7. Adam Gilchrist ( + )
8. Shane Warne
9.
10. Fred Trueman
11.
 
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Dan

Hall of Fame Member
Since my other opening bowler mirrored his action on him, I think I should select the original (and the best): Harold Larwood

My XI:
  1. Jack Hobbs
  2. Barry Richards
  3. -
  4. Javed Miandad
  5. -
  6. -
  7. -
  8. Ray Lindwall
  9. Harold Larwood
  10. -
  11. Muttiah Muralitharan
 
Jager

Jager

International Debutant
Shattered you got Larwood rvd, I was planning him as part of a double pick. What a bowler.
 
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Going to select one of my very favourite cricketers here-

Neil Harvey

Brilliant batsman and a fielder, great technically and remarkable concentration for someone so aggressive. Played some amazing innings on shocking pitches.

Can slot into the #3 spot, or in the middle order depending how everything pans out.

Happy to get him. Great team man as well.



Abbot's XI
1.
2.
3. Neil Harvey
4. Wally Hammond
5.
6.
7. Les Ames
8. Richard Hadlee
9.
10. Allan Donald
11. Bill O'Reilly
 
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Round 1

Himannv- Garry Sobers

Jager- Keith Miller

smalishah84- Imran Khan

zaremba- Malcolm Marshall

Monk- Richard Hadlee

rvd619323- Jack Hobbs

kingkallis- Shane Warne

watson- Glenn McGrath

kyear- Viv Richards

Round 2

kyear- Dennis Lillee

watson- Curtly Ambrose

kingkallis- Adam Gilchrist

rvd619323- Muralitharan

Monk- Wally Hammond

zaremba- Jaques Kallis

smalishah84- Sachin Tendulkar

Jager- Brian Lara

Himannv- Sydney Barnes

Round 3

Himannv- Alan Davidson

Jager- Waqar Younis

smalishah84- Joel Garner

zaremba- Len Hutton

Monk- Bill O'Reilly

rvd619323- Barry Richards

kingkallis- Fred Trueman

watson- Wasim Akram

kyear- Graeme Pollock

Round 4

kyear- Micheal Holding

watson- Greg Chappell

kingkallis- Ian Botham

rvd19323- Ray Lindwall

Monk- Allan Donald

zaremba- Mike Procter

smalishah84- Aubrey Faulkner

Jager- Herbert Sutcliffe

Himmanv- George Headley

Round 5

Himannv- Shaun Pollock

Jager- Clarrie Grimmett

smalishah84- Allan Knott

zaremba- Ricky Ponting

Monk- Les Ames

rvd619323- Javed Miandad

kingkallis- Sunil Gavaskar

watson- Steve Waugh

kyear- Jim Laker

Round 6

kyear- Bruce Mitchell

watson- Richie Benaud

kingkallis- Allan Border

rvd619323- Harold Larwood

Monk- Neil Harvey

zaremba

smalishah84

Jager

Himannv


Round 7

Himannv

Jager

smalishah84

zaremba

Monk

rvd619323

kingkallis

watson

kyear
 
Jager

Jager

International Debutant
All my plans have been ruined this round via Monk and rvd :p Harvey a great pick this late, too. P.S Monk, is your name Abbot?
 
watson

watson

Banned
rvd619323 said:
Since my other opening bowler mirrored his action on him, I think I should select the original (and the best): Harold Larwood

My XI:
  1. Jack Hobbs
  2. Barry Richards
  3. -
  4. Javed Miandad
  5. -
  6. -
  7. -
  8. Ray Lindwall
  9. Harold Larwood
  10. -
  11. Muttiah Muralitharan
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Larwood and Lindwall opening the attack is a beautiful conception rvd. It is like poetry in the form of fast bowling.
 
D

Dan

Hall of Fame Member
smalishah84 said:
:laugh:
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Smali comes in, laughs and leaves - despite the fact it's his pick...
WAC :laugh:

Really happy with the way my team's shaping up so far - I've got half of the guys I really wanted (although losing Miller, then Faulkner screws my #6 slot over somewhat).
 
watson

watson

Banned
kingkallis said:
Allan Border to captain my side...

CricZo XI

1. Sunil Gavaskar
2.
3.
4.
5. Allan Border ( c )
6. Ian Botham
7. Adam Gilchrist ( + )
8. Shane Warne
9.
10. Fred Trueman
11.
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Not sure why Botham bats ahead of Gilchrist here, Gilchrist has a significantly better average and handled pace pretty well. Especially Wasim Akram. On the other hand Botham's average tended to bottom out when playing the West Indian quicks during a series. I don't recall him making a big score against them, or Pakistan either when Imran was at his peak.

On the other hand, Botham is a natural No.7 where there is less pressure and he can hit out with the tail.
 
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