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Players with no peak

smash84

The Tiger King
maybe Michael Hussey? He started off at the peak and was just downhill? Not sure if that counts.
 

Coronis

International Coach
How does his peak start in 1982 when I already pointed out he didn't hit a century in 13 tests between Feb 82 and Nov 83. He must have a shorter peak?
He probably does, I was going based off the 5 year + 40 innings peak thread.

His innings up until that drought breaking century within the timeframe I mentioned…

2, 62*, 89, 83, 47*, 32

6 innings 2 not outs 315 @ 78.75 3 fifties
 

kyear2

International Coach
Marshall clearly had a very well defined peak, from 1983 (before which he wasn't an automatic selection in the WI bowling attack, despite playing since 78) to 89 (after which he wasn't as effective, best showcased in the 92 WC).
Such a disingenuous framing of his early career, but as usual, carry on.
 

capt_Luffy

Cricketer Of The Year
Such a disingenuous framing of his early career, but as usual, carry on.
Now, I have a thing against Carribbean cricketers.... I guess whatever makes you happy. Doesn't change the fact though that what I said was true, not to mention I can't remember I ever said Marshall to not be the Greatest bowler ever, but oh well.
 

kyear2

International Coach
Now, I have a thing against Carribbean cricketers.... I guess whatever makes you happy. Doesn't change the fact though that what I said was true, not to mention I can't remember I ever said Marshall to not be the Greatest bowler ever, but oh well.
Didn't even intimate that.

What I said was that a miss characterization of his early career. He played in 78 because of WWC, after I believe 2 or less first class games. Then from around '80nwhen he was ready, there was the quartet.

Similar to Lara there were many who opined that he was unfairly held back, but the established guys were there.
 

capt_Luffy

Cricketer Of The Year
Didn't even intimate that.

What I said was that a miss characterization of his early career. He played in 78 because of WWC, after I believe 2 or less first class games. Then from around '80nwhen he was ready, there was the quartet.

Similar to Lara there were many who opined that he was unfairly held back, but the established guys were there.
I don't think there is anything wrong with the statement that he wasn't an automatic selection until 5 years of his international career..... A lot of reasons why, sure. Had he been selected consistently from before 83 or should he had not debuted in 78; most probably. But doesn't change that fact.
 

morgieb

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maybe Michael Hussey? He started off at the peak and was just downhill? Not sure if that counts.
2010/11 Ashes onwards was a genuine second wind for him. He was inches away from getting dropped due to a pretty long trough but from that point on scored heaps of runs until he retired.
 

subshakerz

Hall of Fame Member
What I said was that a miss characterization of his early career. He played in 78 because of WWC, after I believe 2 or less first class games. Then from around '80nwhen he was ready, there was the quartet.
That's kinda how I understood what he was saying. He wasn't an auto selection because of competition.
 

Slifer

International Captain
Who are the players with full careers without any concentrated peak period?
I'd think players like Worrell and Miandad who started well and never really peaked or tailed off. Bowling someone like Ambrose who was mostly consistent his entire career (I haven't looked)
 

capt_Luffy

Cricketer Of The Year
I'd think players like Worrell and Miandad who started well and never really peaked or tailed off. Bowling someone like Ambrose who was mostly consistent his entire career (I haven't looked)
Wasn't Ambrose less penetrative post injury?? Also, Miandad and Worrell debuted in their peak and kinda failed off relatively later on.
 

subshakerz

Hall of Fame Member
I'd think players like Worrell and Miandad who started well and never really peaked or tailed off. Bowling someone like Ambrose who was mostly consistent his entire career (I haven't looked)
It's true Miandads average never went below 50 but I think between 83 to 89 he did peak.

Ambrose did peak 89 to 94 but post peak averaged the same with less penetration.

Worrell maybe.
 

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