**Official** Zimbabwe in South Africa Thread

[Richard]

Welcome back Heath Streak!!
You can see the difference in the side already. Doing much better today.

Won't happen every time.
It's not like Streak turns them from a woefully sub-par side into anything close to ODI-class.

 

[marc71178]

How does wickets in hand make it any easier to get under deliveries that you can't get under?

Wickets in hand mean more chance to take risks etc.

A batsman can move around in the crease, and make it almost impossible to bowl an unhittable ball.

The facts of the matter are that irrespective of bowlers when sides have wickets in hand they score big in the last few overs.

 

[Richard]

No, it's not - even now there are still a few bowlers who can occasionally stop them scoring. Certainly there were a hell of a lot more a few years ago.
No matter how much you fiddle around in the crease it's still not possible to totally stop bowlers from bowling unhittable deliveries. A low Full-Toss or a fullish delivery are almost impossible to get hold of, too, and once you start trying to change your position in the crease a lot, you've got to go too early. A good bowler will then see you coming.

 

[Chubb]

True, he can't turn Zimbabwe on his own. But Blignaut will help the side as well.
More importantly, the young bowlers have someone who's been there and done it to look up to and learn from.

 

[Magrat Garlick]

SA 72/3. So far the game is competitive...

 

[Richard]

But Blignaut will help the side as well.

Blignaut's nowhere near ODI-class, either.
His recent spell where he couldn't get into Tassie's side (the weakest in Australia) aptly demonstrated that.
All right, he is a bit better than the like of Panyangara, Mpuriwa or whatever his name is, Hondo, Mpofu and all the others - but he's not enormously so.

 

[Magrat Garlick]

Time for a Streak-esque rescue mission from Kemp. Otherwise...

 

[The Baconator]

Another one, South Africa have got some work to do now

 

[marc71178]

No, it's not - even now there are still a few bowlers who can occasionally stop them scoring. Certainly there were a hell of a lot more a few years ago.

Such as?

List these all time greats for us.

No matter how much you fiddle around in the crease it's still not possible to totally stop bowlers from bowling unhittable deliveries. A low Full-Toss or a fullish delivery are almost impossible to get hold of, too, and once you start trying to change your position in the crease a lot, you've got to go too early.

A low full toss becomes an easy hit by moving 1 or 2 steps down the wicket.

 

[marc71178]

Another one, South Africa have got some work to do now

Pity Zimbabwe have got "Mr useful" on at one end, a pressure-free 4 an over at this stage will put them in control.

 

[Scaly piscine]

Zimbabwe dropping a few catches according to cricinfo.

 

[Kweek]

thats no surprise...but south africa shouldve done this waaay easier..they are looking to be struggeling

 

[chris.hinton]

ummmmmmmmmmm

 

[jot1]

thats no surprise...but south africa shouldve done this waaay easier..they are looking to be struggeling

They were till Kemp opened up. He was out the first ball bowled to him though so we won via the ump it seems.

 

[Kweek]

yeah :S well done kemp, have to say, respect to the man tho Streak...well done to him, why didnt they bowl him 10 overs :S

 

[Richard]

Such as?

List these all time greats for us.

Donald, Fleming (mostly), Wasim Akram, to name a few.
There are several not as good as they used to be, too: Gough, Saqlain (principally because he's hardly played), Cairns, Streak, Kallis.
The only seriously good death-bowler around ATM is Flintoff.

A low full toss becomes an easy hit by moving 1 or 2 steps down the wicket.

But a Yorker becomes a low Full-Toss by moving 1 or 2 steps down the wicket. A just-short-of-Yorker becomes a Yorker.

 

[Richard]

Pity Zimbabwe have got "Mr useful" on at one end, a pressure-free 4 an over at this stage will put them in control.

Yeah, be so much better to have Mpofu or someone else going for 6 or 7, wouldn't it?

 

[Richard]

Zimbabwe dropping a few catches according to cricinfo.

Believe it or not that's because they're a rubbish side who don't deserve to be playing international cricket.

 

[marc71178]

Yeah, be so much better to have Mpofu or someone else going for 6 or 7, wouldn't it?

When Kemp came in they had to dismiss him early.

Better someone who can actually take wickets have a go than have an easy push it around at 3 or 4 an over and get yourself settled job.

 

[Scaly piscine]

When Kemp came in they had to dismiss him early.

Better someone who can actually take wickets have a go than have an easy push it around at 3 or 4 an over and get yourself settled job.

Yep, still we saw what happened the last time Utseya bowled later on in an innings. Only someone massively lacking in cricketing knowledgability seriously believes Utseya is of substantial value to the present Zimbabwe ODI side, let alone someone to idolize like a certain deluded individual does.