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***Official*** West Indies Tour of Pakistan- TEST SERIES- Jan 16 to 28, 2025

Sunil1z

International Regular
This loss hurt's, but pakistan are still 3 from 4 since the pitch change strategy. Atleast there actually winning home tests now.
Pakistan last lost a Test to WI at home in 90s . This is a very poor strategy. This backfired for IND against NZ and it backfired for Pakistan. Asian Team should start preparing 2004-2017 type wickets where opposition spinners have to earn their wickets .
 

Sliferxxxx

U19 Cricketer
Pakistan last lost a Test to WI at home in 90s . This is a very poor strategy. This backfired for IND against NZ and it backfired for Pakistan. Asian Team should start preparing 2004-2017 type wickets where opposition spinners have to earn their wickets .
Yeah, imo these wickets do nothing more than to make ordinary spinners look above average (take nothing away from current spinners). Plus players nowadays suck at playing spinners; generally.
 

honestbharani

Whatever it takes!!!
Pakistan last lost a Test to WI at home in 90s . This is a very poor strategy. This backfired for IND against NZ and it backfired for Pakistan. Asian Team should start preparing 2004-2017 type wickets where opposition spinners have to earn their wickets .
I dont think we have had rank turners in India either except Pune 2017, and probably Pune and Mumbai 2024. Ahmedabad in 2021 was more due to pink ball effect on a regular track that aids spin. But yeah, with T20 effect as well, batsmen are just not able to manage tracks that aid bowlers around the world, so most teams should try to optimize their strength and prepare reasonable wickets where their batsmen can also have a say. Aus almost fell for it too as Sydney could well have gone India's way with better captaincy and MCG had been a draw like most normal teams would have managed in that last session there.
 

Nintendo

Cricketer Of The Year
Pakistan last lost a Test to WI at home in 90s . This is a very poor strategy. This backfired for IND against NZ and it backfired for Pakistan. Asian Team should start preparing 2004-2017 type wickets where opposition spinners have to earn their wickets .
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I've marked their home series since the 2020 series vs SA here. They went a 4 year period including 11 tests here where they didn't win a single home test while producing roads and the occasional green-top. Since changing to the spinning pitches they've won 3 from 4. West indies beat Australia in a test 12 months ago in Australia, there capable of an upset.

EDIT: India is also just a stupid comparison. They didn't go 11 home test's without a win before producing the spinning tracks. They had one of the most dominant home runs in the modern games history and only started coming close to losing when they juiced the pitches up. Your comparing apples with oranges.
 

the big bambino

Cricketer Of The Year
Still think it's worthwhile picking one genuine pace bowler in games like this even if he won't get many overs. Need a bit of variety and intimidation to get up the nose and under the toes of tailenders who manage to get set against the spinners. WI won this game with their late order resistance in the 1st innings.
 
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kevinw

International Debutant
England shot themselves in the foot by picking a rookie spinner in Bashir , he averaged over 40 in that series which cost England badly
In 'pindi in particular, England let Sajid and Noman score runs when the game was in the balance and instead they shipped a more than handy first innings deficit. Leach and Bashir were poor in that game. Both were ok in the second Multan test but way off the level of the Pakistan spinners.
 

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