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honestbharani
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When was the last time both sides of a test match were led by the #1 and #2 allrounders in the world?
SillyCowCorner1
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honestbharani
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Won't Stokes or Jadeja or even Ashwin broken them up as #1 and #2?
honestbharani
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I was actually thinking of the 80s with the fab 4 allrounders of that era.. 
SillyCowCorner1
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India’s top order will need to fail consistently for Ash-Jad to step up with their batting prowess.
Ashwin will need to play all his remaining matches against the Windies in order to be considered a batsman.
honestbharani
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No, I meant 2 years ago or whenever it was, won't Jadeja or Ashwin been in the top 2 allrounders? Or was it Holder - Shakib then?
SillyCowCorner1
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We’ll need to dig up the rankings to actually get that information.
Howe_zat
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Yeah Holder wasn't in the top five at that time. https://www.icc-cricket.com/rankings/mens/player-rankings/test/all-rounder?at=2018-07-12
SillyCowCorner1
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^that dismisses my claim.
Thanks for the link Howe.
Now going back to the question, it could might as well be Allrounders from the 1980s
Thanks for the link Howe.
Now going back to the question, it could might as well be Allrounders from the 1980s
honestbharani
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Kapil Vs Imran the best bet I guess. Pollock Vs Jayasuriya maybe sometime in the early noughties?
Howe_zat
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Hadlee never captained, Botham only ever captained against Clive Lloyd, Greg Chappell and Kim Hughes.
Kapil Dev vs Imran as captains happened from 1983-87, and Kapil Dev's peak ranking as an allrounder was #3 in those years - so it's close, but it's not quite there.
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Howe_zat
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Good shout this but Jayasuriya's peak allrounder ranking was #3, and it was long after he was captain.
honestbharani
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how do you get the historical allrounder ratings?
SillyCowCorner1
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So it’s closer to Shakib versus Vettori in 2010s
honestbharani
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found it.. In 1987 when Ind-Pak played a series, Imran was #2 and Kapil #4. That is the closest I guess.
EDIT: I meant I found the ICC site to use for the rankings when I said "found it".
EDIT: I meant I found the ICC site to use for the rankings when I said "found it".
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Howe_zat
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Man this is such a rabbit hole with so many near misses. When Pakistan toured England in 1974, Tony Grieg and Mushtaq Mohammed were the #1 and #2 ranked allrounders in the world... but Mohammed wouldn't take over the Pakistan captaincy until the next year. The Pakistan captain was Intikhab Alam, who was the #4 ranked allrounder in the world.
Howe_zat
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Use the 'fliter by date' on the rankings website. https://www.icc-cricket.com/rankings/mens/player-rankings/test/all-rounder?at=1974-07-07
honestbharani
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Yeah the 1986 India Pak had Kapil as the #4 allrounder (not sure of exact dates but at a guess) and Ravi Shastri as the #5 allrounder. I think he also led India in a test once may not be in that period though.