**Official** West Indies in England 2012

[Jarquis]

WW thinks England should tailor pitches to suit the WI? Ok.

I like the kit

 

[The_roc]

The problem with the windies is that they only have 2 proper bowlers. The other 4 wouldn't be in the team if they couldn't bat a bit.

 

[flibbertyjibber]

I guess we'll see how Swann goes on this pitch against a side full of right-handers then!!.....

Better than Narine.

 

[grecian]

Better than Narine.

oh look why are you encouraging him.....

 

[stumpski]

I'd like to know why Sky Sports 3 are showing motor racing when the ODI highlights were supposed to be on until 10.30. I was banking on watching that this evening.

 

[FBU]

It's all over.

England win by 114 runs.

The WI crumbled a bit once Smith went and the ball certainly has done a lot more since the rain break. Good bowling by Bresnan in particular, but I was a bit disappointed by both Anderson and Broad before the rain came along.

Roll on Tuesday at the Oval!

Anderson and Broad were rested and haven't had any bowling for nearly 3 weeks.

 

[stumpski]

Anderson and Broad were rested and haven't had any bowling for nearly 3 weeks.

Anderson 8-0-48-2

Broad 8-0-40-1

Respectable figures these days I would say.

 

[wellAlbidarned]

A flat pitch in a limited overs match? Who woulda thought.

 

[Cabinet96]

What a cowardly act by england to move the boundries further back than normal because they are scared of our batting monsters!! , and of course they produce a road to make Bell look good and negate our most effective bowler in this formate (Narine) , i guess with them being at home they are well within their rights to do it but my god it just stinks of desperation imo

What? If the ropes are right back, then that's not cowardly, it's just leaving them where they are supposed to be, I.e. not bringing them in. Surely WI's power hitters could clear the long boundaries anyway, whereas the English batsmen would struggle to get boundaries because they aren't such power hitters? No doubt you'd say it was poor if they brought the ropes in and Bell was clearing them regularly. You'd probably say it was a desperate move that makes England's flimsy hitters look like Viv Richards.

Also the flat pitch argument makes no sense. England have a line up that doesn't look to different to their test one, while on the other hand, West Indies have lots of all-rounders who I wouldn't be confident of surviving in tough conditions. If anything flat pitches balance out the difference between test level batsmen and useful hitters such as Russel and Sammy.

 

[grecian]

What? If the ropes are right back, then that's not cowardly, it's just leaving them where they are supposed to be, I.e. not bringing them in. Surely WI's power hitters could clear the long boundaries anyway, whereas the English batsmen would struggle to get boundaries because they aren't such power hitters? No doubt you'd say it was poor if they brought the ropes in and Bell was clearing them regularly. You'd probably say it was a desperate move that makes England's flimsy hitters look like Viv Richards.

Also the flat pitch argument makes no sense. England have a line up that doesn't look to different to their test one, while on the other hand, West Indies have lots of all-rounders who I wouldn't be confident of surviving in tough conditions. If anything flat pitches balance out the difference between test level batsmen and useful hitters such as Russel and Sammy.

ahh, i think you're using logic to diffuse a troll, really no point

 

[Cabinet96]

Not sure what's more horrible; WindieWeathers' posting in this thread or that England kit.

I actually really like the kit. Best one since 2008 IMO.

 

[Jacknife]

I actually really like the kit. Best one since 2008 IMO.

Same here, like it.

 

[Jacknife]

What? If the ropes are right back, then that's not cowardly, it's just leaving them where they are supposed to be, I.e. not bringing them in. Surely WI's power hitters could clear the long boundaries anyway, whereas the English batsmen would struggle to get boundaries because they aren't such power hitters? No doubt you'd say it was poor if they brought the ropes in and Bell was clearing them regularly. You'd probably say it was a desperate move that makes England's flimsy hitters look like Viv Richards.

Also the flat pitch argument makes no sense. England have a line up that doesn't look to different to their test one, while on the other hand, West Indies have lots of all-rounders who I wouldn't be confident of surviving in tough conditions. If anything flat pitches balance out the difference between test level batsmen and useful hitters such as Russel and Sammy.

I'd leave well alone mate.

 

[Migara]

Meant old Wilf

Ya, he was a magnificient ODI bowler dwarfing even Murali and Saqlain.

 

[WindieWeathers]

ahh, i think you're using logic to diffuse a troll, really no point

Yeah because having a different opinion to yours obviously means i'm a "troll"!!!.. well done einstein you got me!! .

 

[WindieWeathers]

WW thinks England should tailor pitches to suit the WI? Ok.

I like the kit

If England are AT HOME playing a LOWER RANKED SIDE why adopt the cowardly tactics? just doesn't make sense to me .

 

[Cabinet96]

If England are AT HOME playing a LOWER RANKED SIDE why adopt the cowardly tactics? just doesn't make sense to me .

Because they're not cowardly tactics at all.

 

[weeman27bob]

I know, I can't believe that teams playing at home don't make their pitches in favour of the opposition. I mean, it's not like that'd be a ridiculous idea.

 

[Cabinet96]

Clearly we were quacking with fear when Bangladesh came over, because we didn't prepare dust bowls to seek their needs and make it a more even contest.

 

[WindieWeathers]

What? If the ropes are right back, then that's not cowardly, it's just leaving them where they are supposed to be, I.e. not bringing them in. Surely WI's power hitters could clear the long boundaries anyway, whereas the English batsmen would struggle to get boundaries because they aren't such power hitters? No doubt you'd say it was poor if they brought the ropes in and Bell was clearing them regularly. You'd probably say it was a desperate move that makes England's flimsy hitters look like Viv Richards.

Also the flat pitch argument makes no sense. England have a line up that doesn't look to different to their test one, while on the other hand, West Indies have lots of all-rounders who I wouldn't be confident of surviving in tough conditions. If anything flat pitches balance out the difference between test level batsmen and useful hitters such as Russel and Sammy.

If you actually took the time to read my original post you would see that England obviously done their homework and found that our batsmen aren't keen on taking many 1s and 2s, they usually take up a lot of dot balls and hit boundries, so England moved the ropes far back which would force our batsmen to take more singles or hit the ball further than usual, that obviously didn't work out too well,

They also prepard a flat pitch knowing we had the weaker attack, our medium pacers wasn't gonna be a problem on that pitch, it also worked against our main weapon (Narine), on reflection it was smart tactics by england, but very cowardly against a team ranked lower than them imo.