***Official*** VB Series 2006

[Blaze]

Care to elaborate .... Mate ..

Which crap are you talking about

The fact that you are still criticising Ponting when he did nothing wrong (I am possibly the biggest hater of Ponting on this forum)

And the fact that you are calling umpires biased when there have been very few marginal decisions IMO and no pro umpire lacks the integrity these days to make decisions in favor of his home nation.

 

[PANIC!]

Am I the only one here who thinks that there's something fishy about Mahela's retraction of the catch and apologising ?

Nope. Obviously he saw on the replay how clear it was the he didn't catch it and decided to apologise to save embarrassment.

 

[Mr Mxyzptlk]

Had the same Ponting saga happened to a Sri Lankan batsman , I have absolutely no doubt that Ponting and his Team would have castigated the Batsman and made sure he walked

Fair point. I don't think many Australian fans can argue with that theory.

 

[Blaze]

Says the guy who loves Ashley Giles ....

Not true.

If New Zealand don't beat one of Pakistan or Bangladesh (or whoever the decent teams are in their group) then I will have Ashley Giles as my avatar for a month and put in my sig - 'I love Ashley Giles'

 

[JASON]

The fact that you are still criticising Ponting when he did nothing wrong (I am possibly the biggest hater of Ponting on this forum)

And the fact that you are calling umpires biased when there have been very few marginal decisions IMO and no pro umpire lacks the integrity these days to make decisions in favor of his home nation.

OK , Fair enough , I withdraw my criticism . **Apologises profusely** Particularly to Blaze .

 

[JASON]

Nope. Obviously he saw on the replay how clear it was the he didn't catch it and decided to apologise to save embarrassment.

OK Mate , I am not going to discuss this any more .

But regardless of that decision, I am certain Aussies would have still won by a country Mile .

 

[JASON]

Not true.

I knew that , was only trying to poke fun at you .

 

[FaaipDeOiad]

Fair point. I don't think many Australian fans can argue with that theory.

I can. How could Australia have "castigated the batsman" and "made sure he walked" any more than Sri Lanka did? Mahela claimed the catch, nodded twice at Ponting indicating he took it cleanly, and along with all the fielders surrounding him clearly indicated their displeasure at him not walking. In fact, Mahela walked around shaking his head and muttering to himself for quite a while afterwards. Atapattu then spent a couple of minutes in heated discussion with the umpires, and I'd imagine Ponting got a few words as well.

What exactly would Australia have done? I've seen several instances in this very series of Australian fielders taking lineball catches, coming up and saying disticintly that they didn't know if they caught it or not. One example is Brad Hogg taking a catch at mid-off under similar circumstances earlier in the VB series, which looked almost exactly the same on replay. He said he didn't know, the rest of the fielders stopped appealing and play went on.

You could name an example of a player who has claimed a famous dubious catch from just about every team, if you tried. Dyer from Australia, Harper from the West Indies, Latif from Pakistan, Lloyd from England and so on. I don't see at all why it is assumed that Australia are any worse in terms of such sportsmanship issues than any other team.

 

[JASON]

I can. How could Australia have "castigated the batsman" and "made sure he walked" any more than Sri Lanka did? Mahela claimed the catch, nodded twice at Ponting indicating he took it cleanly, and along with all the fielders surrounding him clearly indicated their displeasure at him not walking. In fact, Mahela walked around shaking his head and muttering to himself for quite a while afterwards.

There's a difference between muttering and shaking their head as opposed to shouting at the batsman and telling him what you thought of him or vociferously arguing with the umpire about asking for a review of a decision as Gilly did . (for which he was suspended)

Atapattu then spent a couple of minutes in heated discussion with the umpires, and I'd imagine Ponting got a few words as well.

If you think the mild mannered Atapattu had the courage to even look up at Ponting in the eye , I would say you are imagining too Much ...

 

[andyc]

Katich gets out early, and Australia make a record score.

I don't think the two things are necessarily unrelated.

Spot the guy with the short memory

 

[Dydl]

And Murali going for 99 is unbelievable.

More so given that he is the Most Economical ODI bowler in International ODI cricket ATM .

Murali might have been affected by this:

Aravinda De Silva's brother in law Vasanth met with a swimming accident on Monday in Queensland and we consider it a tragic loss to the family as well as the community.

Basically, Murali was one of Aravinda de Silva's close friends, so he would have been upset by this death....and also, the funeral was on Sunday morning, the day of the match, so he might have been affected by that...from my position from the stands, Murali never looked like taking a wicket and wasn't at all affective....

 

[marc71178]

Nope. Obviously he saw on the replay how clear it was the he didn't catch it and decided to apologise to save embarrassment.

If the TV replay shows it 2-3 cm bouncing then that is not clear proof of anything.

It's been shown that TV may "show" the ball to be well in front of the fielder when it is actually a clean catch.

 

[PANIC!]

If the TV replay shows it 2-3 cm bouncing then that is not clear proof of anything.

It's been shown that TV may "show" the ball to be well in front of the fielder when it is actually a clean catch.

Then what made Mahela change his mind? What made him realise he didn't catch it?

IMO it is pretty clear on the replays he didn't catch it. The ball bounces before his finger tips and bounces into the back of his hand. If it hit his finger tips it would have stayed there and not bounced up as rapidly as it did.

 

[Jono]

The whole Sri Lankan team was told that the ball didn't carry by Moody and the rest of the Sri Lankan camp. A message was sent down to make sure they went on with the game and did not get too caught up in it after Ponting was given not out.

 

[andyc]

I don't see the big deal at all. He thought he caught it, so he claimed it. He didn't think 'I didn't take that, but what the hell.' Once they found out that he definetely (and the video isn't 100% clear, but it does look like he didn't take it) didn't get to it, they went on with the game and Jayawardene apologised. No harm done at all.

 

[luckyeddie]

Had the same Ponting saga happened to a Sri Lankan batsman , I have absolutely no doubt that Ponting and his Team would have castigated the Batsman and made sure he walked .

Even if that had not happened , they would have put absolute pressure on Benson (who I have to say, may be a good umpire but is definitely not a neutral from what I have seen of him in the VB series) and Parker, and I have no doubt they would have got a 3rd Umpire involved.

The virtues of being Australia !!

You raged against Ponting for not walking when you thought that he was out, and when it was categorically proved beyond any shadow of doubt that he was correct to stand his ground (he had not been given out by those who count) and the umpires were correct to make the decision they did (and, if I might add, the Sri Lankans were out of order to try to put the pressure on in the way they did) it doesn't make any difference to your opinion, you still whine.

 

[age_master]

IMO it is pretty clear on the replays he didn't catch it. The ball bounces before his finger tips and bounces into the back of his hand. If it hit his finger tips it would have stayed there and not bounced up as rapidly as it did.

yep its pretty clear for mine too

 

[Nate]

Did anyone else do a when Symonds jabbed that bloke in the crowd with his bat?

*raises hand*

When he was walking back to the pavillion I was thinking 'Man, he`d be buggered, but what a huge ovation!' And then I saw thus guy with his arms out-stretched, and the rest is history.

 

[social]

Had the same Ponting saga happened to a Sri Lankan batsman , I have absolutely no doubt that Ponting and his Team would have castigated the Batsman and made sure he walked .

Even if that had not happened , they would have put absolute pressure on Benson (who I have to say, may be a good umpire but is definitely not a neutral from what I have seen of him in the VB series) and Parker, and I have no doubt they would have got a 3rd Umpire involved.

The virtues of being Australia !!

Ponting, or any other Australian for that matter, would've been crucified if he had claimed a catch in such circumstances.

People still talk about the Slater "catch" and reaction in India years ago where this was infinitely worse.

Jahawardene's actions in this game and in the game against SA (where he deliberately obstructed the field) were, to put it mildly, not good!

Once again, it's a case of the big bad Australians being cannon fodder for criticism and everyone else being immune.

 

[Top_Cat]

Had the same Ponting saga happened to a Sri Lankan batsman , I have absolutely no doubt that Ponting and his Team would have castigated the Batsman and made sure he walked .

Excuse me, would you mind putting that away? Your bias is showing.

Seriously, the above is bordering on idiotic. Castigated the batsman into walking? Please. I've personally never seen any team get away with stuff like that. If any team tried, they'd expect (and deserve) a pretty hefty fine.