**Official**VB Series 2005 Australia,Pakistan,West Indies.

[Slow Love™]

Was that the stupidest non-english reverse sweep you ever saw?

I was about to say "what about..." but then I noticed your criteria and clammed my mouth shut.

Being in Melbourne though, I didn't see it, unfortunately. We only get the first two hours televised.

 

[Scallywag]

What about the LBWs were they good decisions . But u have to give Pakistan credit for the way they have comeback

Thats exactaly what I mean, who is in the best position to judge an LBW, a supporter sitting at home going on replays from a camera that may or may not be directly in line with the stumps or an Umpire that is right in the middle perfectly positioned to make a judgement.

People think just because the camera showed it looked out it must be out not knowing how much a camera can be distorted and giving false illusions.

 

[Jono]

Symonds and Katich gone very quickly. 7 down! Technically Razzaq had 3 wickets in that over, but one wasn't given (edge down leg side). Razzaq on a hat-trick.

Good knock by Symonds.

 

[Scallywag]

Thats exactaly what I mean, who is in the best position to judge an LBW, a supporter sitting at home going on replays from a camera that may or may not be directly in line with the stumps or an Umpire that is right in the middle perfectly positioned to make a judgement.

People think just because the camera showed it looked out it must be out not knowing how much a camera can be distorted and giving false illusions.

And dont forget the umpire has to certain it is out without doubt within 2-3 seconds without wathching numerous slow motion replays.

Try doing that next time as that is also part of the rules which most posters also dont know.

 

[chaminda_00]

Thats exactaly what I mean, who is in the best position to judge an LBW, a supporter sitting at home going on replays from a camera that may or may not be directly in line with the stumps or an Umpire that is right in the middle perfectly positioned to make a judgement.

People think just because the camera showed it looked out it must be out not knowing how much a camera can be distorted and giving false illusions.

That why they have HawkEye for us armchair viewers. It is not 100% accurate, but 99.99% is good enough isn't it.

 

[chaminda_00]

And dont forget the umpire has to certain it is out without doubt within 2-3 seconds without wathching numerous slow motion replays.

Try doing that next time as that is also part of the rules which most posters also dont know.

Well that is what they are paid to do and if they can't get them right more often then maybe they should use more technology.

 

[Slow Love™]

Thats exactaly what I mean, who is in the best position to judge an LBW, a supporter sitting at home going on replays from a camera that may or may not be directly in line with the stumps or an Umpire that is right in the middle perfectly positioned to make a judgement.

Wow, you've managed to find a way an umpire's performance can't be evaluated, including by the governing body whose job it is to evaluate them.

This is a ridiculous argument. Given that you're happy to use the coverage to back up your opinion that a call was good, you have to allow it the other way. TV replays definitely give us an excellent view of LBW appeals, and with slow-motion, we have access to a view that the umpire simply doesn't. As I'm sure you'd agree, the umpire has a harder job. We can acknowledge the difficulty of their position, but that DOESN'T translate (obviously) to the idea that the tools at their disposal are as good as those the viewer at home (and the third umpire, for that matter) enjoys.

 

[Scallywag]

That why they have HawkEye for us armchair viewers. It is not 100% accurate, but 99.99% is good enough isn't it.

And you know its 99.99% accurate because channel nine told you, right.

And let me guess channel nine is 99.99% right as well.

Do you buy signed posters off channel nine because they tell you they are going to be worth lots of money one day.

 

[chaminda_00]

Anyway how about this Pakistan effect their on fire, can they keep it going???

 

[Slow Love™]

Eeeek, this game's going a bit pear-shaped...

8/221 with Gillespie and Lee at the wicket. Hopefully Lee can do some big-hitting (although, even with his defensive reputation, Gillespie's not too bad at smacking it around either).

 

[chaminda_00]

And you know its 99.99% accurate because channel nine told you, right.

And let me guess channel nine is 99.99% right as well.

Do you but signed posters off channel nine because they tell you they are going to be worth lots of money one day.

No Daryll Harper mentioned in an interview that if he was as accurate as HwakEye he would not be an umpire but more likely a rocket scientist. Not in those extact words but something similar. A study was done on it and it was found that it was 99.99% accurate, i'm not sure who did the study but.

 

[Jono]

Razzaq has bowled very well today. 3 wickets and has kept it very tight. Not to mention that awesome one handed catch to remove Gilly.

 

[Slow Love™]

No Daryll Harper mentioned in an interview that if he was as accurate as HwakEye he would not be an umpire but more likely a rocket scientist. Not in those extact words but something similar. A study was done on it and it was found that it was 99.99% accurate, i'm not sure who did the study but.

Funny thing is, I don't totally trust Hawkeye's predictive powers as to whether a ball would have hit the stumps for sure, particularly when the ball's turning a lot or seaming around. I'd be surprised if it's 99.99% accurate.

On the other hand, the marked line down the pitch is pretty much a no-brainer.

 

[Jono]

Ouch! Two bottom edges by Lee for 4. Poor Rana.

 

[Scallywag]

No Daryll Harper mentioned in an interview that if he was as accurate as HwakEye he would not be an umpire but more likely a rocket scientist. Not in those extact words but something similar. A study was done on it and it was found that it was 99.99% accurate, i'm not sure who did the study but.

So hawkeye can give you a 99.99% correct decision within 2 seconds each and every time there is an LBW appeal. Or are you suggesting every time there is an appeal the game stops and several technitians go over and over slow motion replays. Maybe channel nine can sell adverts while the decisions are processed. And players can get bonus points with channel nine for appealing all the time so they can sell more adverts. And then we can watch a bit of cricket duing the adverts.

 

[Arrow]

Great job by pakistan. Lets hope they dont crumble miserably in the batting which is a big possibility.

 

[chaminda_00]

So hawkeye can give you a 99.99% correct decision within 2 seconds each and every time there is an LBW appeal. Or are you suggesting every time there is an appeal the game stops and several technitians go over and over slow motion replays. Maybe channel nine can sell adverts while the decisions are processed. And players can get bonus points with channel nine for appealing all the time so they can sell more adverts. And then we can watch a bit of cricket duing the adverts.

No mate technology should only be used in LBWs to make the decision whether the ball hit in line or pitiched outside leg stump. All i'm saying about HawkEye is that it gives viewers a greater indication weather the bowl was going to hit the stumps or not.

Anyway brillant effect by pakistan, now can they back it up with the bat.

 

[Jono]

If Pakistan are EVER going to have a chance to beat Australia in a final, today is the day! Surely they can put up a good performance and stick with it. A win is definitely possible.

 

[Slow Love™]

It's hard to say at this stage how good this score is. It's certainly not as good as I would have hoped 40 overs in or so. Good work from Pakistan, but hopefully their bats might struggle. Could get a bit of rain to complicate matters - it's clouding over and looking a little threatening.

 

[Scallywag]

No mate technology should only be used in LBWs to make the decision whether the ball hit in line or pitiched outside leg stump.
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Ok so your calling for technology to be used in LBWs, exactly how long will the players have to wait for this 99.99% accurate decision to be made.