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**Official**VB Series 2005 Australia,Pakistan,West Indies.

Deja moo

International Captain
10 seconds I guess. Thats how long it takes for Hawkeye to display the path of the delivery on television.
 

chaminda_00

Hall of Fame Member
Scallywag said:
chaminda_00 said:
No mate technology should only be used in LBWs to make the decision whether the ball hit in line or pitiched outside leg stump.
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Ok so your calling for technology to be used in LBWs, exactly how long will the players have to wait for this 99.99% accurate decision to be made.
Same time as run outs, do u honestly believe the human eye is more accurate then technology
 

Scallywag

Banned
Deja moo said:
10 seconds I guess. Thats how long it takes for Hawkeye to display the path of the delivery on television.
I thought it took about 20-30 seconds but at least captains will have another excuse for slow over rates just when they are trying to get them to quicken things up.
 

chaminda_00

Hall of Fame Member
Well the TV Umpires didn't use HawkEye to make LBW decisions in the Champions Thorphy. They used marked lines on the pitch and the grey stump line thing.
 

Deja moo

International Captain
Scallywag said:
I thought it took about 20-30 seconds but at least captains will have another excuse for slow over rates just when they are trying to get them to quicken things up.

You mean like how batsmen take their own sweet time getting ready to face the bowler even though the bowler is ready to run in ?
 

Josh

International Regular
Watson, ey?? You f**king idiots, Australia. And Hayden... they've never once tried him lower in the order. Katich at 7 is a joke. Some real issues with that order.

Good to see Symonds' make a few tho.
 

Scallywag

Banned
chaminda_00 said:
Same time as run outs, do u honestly believe the human eye is more accurate then technology
I'm not saying that umpires are more accurate than technology, I'm saying that cricket is about accepting the umpires decision and I dont think having players standing around while technitians make decisions instead of umpires is good for the game. Football, basketball and many other sports could improve the accuracy of decision making by adopting technology but sport is about abiding the umpires decision and keeping the game moving.

Its my opinion that cricket will become ugly and very much less as a spectator sport once all the decisions are taken out of the umpires hands.

Even in tennis the court umpires can over rule the technology made decisions because they do make mistakes but its just cricket and channel nine that claim to have a 99.99% accuracy rate, and if Tony Greig is anything to go by I pity the day when the umpires are relegated to counting balls while comentators get what they want and can sit there anaylising every ball and making the calls.

You will get what you want eventually but something tells me when you get it your not going to like what you have so passioniatly desired. But hey channel nine will have total control of the match and the armchair critics will have nothing to complain about except why there are no spectators at the match and the atmosphere is just a bit above a pura cup match.

As the old saying goes be careful what you ask for because you just may get it.
 

Fiery

Banned
Scallywag said:
chaminda_00 said:
No mate technology should only be used in LBWs to make the decision whether the ball hit in line or pitiched outside leg stump.
QUOTE]


Ok so your calling for technology to be used in LBWs, exactly how long will the players have to wait for this 99.99% accurate decision to be made.
Who cares, as long as the right decision is made? You are fighting a losing battle there Scallywag. The sooner everything goes upstairs the better. At the moment, the only thing the cameras do is make the umpires look like incompetent idiots. I'm sure, even though they wont admit it, they would prefer it if they had more assistance just as much as the average cricket fan would.
 

sir middle stump

School Boy/Girl Captain
Scallywag said:
I'm not saying that umpires are more accurate than technology, I'm saying that cricket is about accepting the umpires decision and I dont think having players standing around while technitians make decisions instead of umpires is good for the game. Football, basketball and many other sports could improve the accuracy of decision making by adopting technology but sport is about abiding the umpires decision and keeping the game moving.

Its my opinion that cricket will become ugly and very much less as a spectator sport once all the decisions are taken out of the umpires hands.

Even in tennis the court umpires can over rule the technology made decisions because they do make mistakes but its just cricket and channel nine that claim to have a 99.99% accuracy rate, and if Tony Greig is anything to go by I pity the day when the umpires are relegated to counting balls while comentators get what they want and can sit there anaylising every ball and making the calls.

You will get what you want eventually but something tells me when you get it your not going to like what you have so passioniatly desired. But hey channel nine will have total control of the match and the armchair critics will have nothing to complain about except why there are no spectators at the match and the atmosphere is just a bit above a pura cup match.

As the old saying goes be careful what you ask for because you just may get it.
(1) Technicians do not make decisions. A computer program aided by multiple angle camera inputs does.
That in no way makes it inferior to umpires.

(2) Why would spectators not watch the matches in the stadia if decisions are more accurate than ever ? The game is the same. The players would still be playing it.

I fail to see why people do not think this is a good thing. LBW calls being made by computers increases accuracy and I'd rather see that happening than a bloke in the middle who gets 3 wrong decisions in a final at that.
 

Scallywag

Banned
Fiery said:
Who cares, as long as the right decision is made? You are fighting a losing battle there Scallywag. The sooner everything goes upstairs the better. At the moment, the only thing the cameras do is make the umpires look like incompetent idiots. I'm sure, even though they wont admit it, they would prefer it if they had more assistance just as much as the average cricket fan would.
I'm not fighting a losing battle fiery, those calling for technology are, they think the umpires are biased towards Australia and the technology issue will suddenly bring Australia down but it wont because Australia will benifit just as much as any other team. What will happen though is cricket will become less appealing and thats bad news for all of us. I will just follow a different sport because cricket will be to boring, it will be cricket that will be the loser.
 

sir middle stump

School Boy/Girl Captain
Scallywag said:
I'm not fighting a losing battle fiery, those calling for technology are, they think the umpires are biased towards Australia and the technology issue will suddenly bring Australia down but it wont because Australia will benifit just as much as any other team. What will happen though is cricket will become less appealing and thats bad news for all of us. I will just follow a different sport because cricket will be to boring, it will be cricket that will be the loser.
Ah! I should have realised that the driving force behind your arguments is patriotism rather than any nostalgia for the umpires in the game.

Believe me, these arguments stand no matter which team gets the benefit of the decisions. Cricket wont be any less appealing.
 

Scallywag

Banned
sir middle stump said:
Believe me, these arguments stand no matter which team gets the benefit of the decisions.
Off course they do thats why they come up only when Australia bowl.

(I will add I'm being sarcastic.)
 
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Fiery

Banned
Scallywag said:
I'm not fighting a losing battle fiery, those calling for technology are, they think the umpires are biased towards Australia and the technology issue will suddenly bring Australia down but it wont because Australia will benifit just as much as any other team. What will happen though is cricket will become less appealing and thats bad news for all of us. I will just follow a different sport because cricket will be to boring, it will be cricket that will be the loser.
:huh: You think this is about some sort of The World vs Aussie thing? :D It's got nothing to do with any national bias, (even though you must admit Aussie have had some shockers go their way in this game).
You are, in fact fighting a losing battle as the technology is slowly taking over. It's just that the transition is painfully slow for most people like myself who get frustrated by poor decisions that could be avoided by using the technology that is already in place.
 

sir middle stump

School Boy/Girl Captain
Scallywag said:
Off course they do thats why they come up only when Australia bowl.

(I will add I'm being sarcastic.)

No. It means you apparently do not follow the threads of the other series . For example, the SA-Eng one.
 

Scallywag

Banned
Fiery said:
:huh: You think this is about some sort of The World vs Aussie thing? .
Definatley not, I very rarely here the english, south Africans, west indian and new zealand supporters carry on about the lbw decisions. It only gets dragged up and complained about ad-nausum when we play India, Pakistan and Sri Lanka. Even though I have noticed a few Nzeders etting into the act lately.
 

sir middle stump

School Boy/Girl Captain
Scallywag said:
Definatley not, I very rarely here the english, south Africans, west indian and new zealand supporters carry on about the lbw decisions. It only gets dragged up and complained about ad-nausum when we play India, Pakistan and Sri Lanka. Even though I have noticed a few Nzeders etting into the act lately.

Actually all the Pakistani supporters did toady was to mention the wrong decisions. You think members shouldnt be allowed to mention wrong decisions on the forums ?
 

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