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***Official*** Super Series

age_master

Hall of Fame Member
twctopcat said:
I hope Boucher learns to pick Murali's wrong-un pretty soon or we could have some Geraint-esque spills on our hands.
haha there might be a couple, but hes a vastly superior gloveman and should be able to handle Murali fairly well
 

dinu23

International Debutant
age_master said:
haha there might be a couple, but hes a vastly superior gloveman and should be able to handle Murali fairly well
i don't know about that. when Kumar first came on to the scene he had a pretty rough time keeping to Murali.
 

venomous

Cricket Spectator
godofcricket said:
Well i personally think he should have been ahead of him anyway.....and i will never understand why they had to pick Gibbs over Inzy, what hasnt Inzy done lately which they have done????
I think now Inzy shld just show a big :thumbdown to Sunil Gavaskar and ICC...if a man of his calibre wasn't picked at 1st place then there's no need to replace ever-injured Sachin with him.
 

SJS

Hall of Fame Member
greg said:
Signalling systems would be picked up in no time.
I remember reading the autobiography of a wicket keeper and he mentioned that in the case of him and his teams main spinner, the keeper would signal to the keeper rather than the other way round so as not to let the batsman in on it. I thought that was remarkable.
 

SJS

Hall of Fame Member
Pratyush said:
The keepers usually do know which bowl will be the doosra usually. Whether its by some signalling system or conversation with the keeper or slip I do not know.

Else the keepers would miss far more than they do.
Normally, the keepers will stand at the nets and try to familarise them selves to the bowlers goglies and doosras so as not to be foxed. Why should we be surprised that the keepers are foxed after all some of the top batsmen in the world are. Thats why a keeper leg spinner combination which comes from the same first class side is so successful. Kirmani and Chandrashekhar are an example from India.

Tich Freeman and Les Ames are another great partnership from the past.

At times the discussion would even be at the beginning of the over when a bowler would tell or send a message to the keeper as to which ball would be the googly, for example. But there have always been signals between bowlers with 'mystery' balls and there wicket keepers.
 

SJS

Hall of Fame Member
age_master said:
he should be able to pick it without any signals
Its easier said than done :)

If it was that easy to pick it wouldnt take anyone by surprise, least of all any batsman worth his salt.
 

aussie

Hall of Fame Member
Barney Rubble said:
He's still got to face Freddie and Harmy out in Aus though - it's not over yet. :p
well they wont cause him as much problems over their, plus the fact that he has faced them so much this summer would be in his advantage.
 

Barney Rubble

International Coach
aussie said:
well they wont cause him as much problems over their, plus the fact that he has faced them so much this summer would be in his advantage.
I don't think it's a given that they won't cause him so many problems over there - there's bounce in them there pitches if my knowledge of Aussie grounds serves. And I think although he's going to be able to put into action what he's learnt this summer, they won't be all he has to worry about - he's got to keep out Murali and Pollock/Shoaib/Vettori/whoever as well! It'll be a tough six days for all of them, especially if they lose the Ashes.
 

marc71178

Eyes not spreadsheets
aussie said:
well they wont cause him as much problems over their, plus the fact that he has faced them so much this summer would be in his advantage.
What rubbish.

The fact he's struggled against England for 4 matches doesn't make it an advantage.
 

Jono

Virat Kohli (c)
Yeah I have to disagree with you Aussie. The fact that he's struggled against the both of them (seeing as Jones hasn't really caused him too much worries) really only means he'll be in for more in the Super Series. Plus add Pollock and Murali to support Harmy and Freddy, and Hayden won't have it easy. I'm not saying he'll fail, but if he's struggled in the Ashes he'll likely struggle against an even better bowling line-up.
 

aussie

Hall of Fame Member
marc71178 said:
What rubbish.

The fact he's struggled against England for 4 matches doesn't make it an advantage.
yea, yea waz expecting this comment, i know he has struggled in 4 test but if you look at the times he has gotten out, mostly it has been after he has gotten through the new-ball then bam the reverse swing has him in all sorts of problems. At the SCG the ball doesn't reverse swing at all or near as much as what we saw at Edgbagston & Old Trafford this summer.

I'm not saying he is going to smash runs in the super-test because he will have other world-class bowlers to contend with, but i think the fact that he has faced Harmy & Freddie all summer would be in his advantage come the super test.
 
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marc71178

Eyes not spreadsheets
So in one instance you say he's mostly got out after the ball starts to reverse, then in the next you say it's not reversed at half the grounds, thus rendering your initial comment inaccurate...
 

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