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***Official** Sri Lanka v Pakistan in Abu Dhabi

Prince EWS

Global Moderator
I think Razzaq's role must be brought into question, really. He's in the side principally as a batsman and yet he's down to come in at 8. Seems to happen a lot with Afridi/Razzaq - personally, as useful as they are down the order and as bowling options, I don't think Pakistan should be playing both of them.
 

Xuhaib

International Coach
nightprowler, do you think this is Pakistan's best batting lineup? Would you make any changes?
Hameed will struggle against top sides so I would still have Younis over him but will make him bat at 5 as I feel Malik is the one who should be batting at 3, from what I have seen of Fawad Alam he looks a quality limited overs bat and I am sure he will be able to find a place in the top 6 somewhere.
 

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I think Razzaq's role must be brought into question, really. He's in the side principally as a batsman and yet he's down to come in at 8. Seems to happen a lot with Afridi/Razzaq - personally, as useful as they are down the order and as bowling options, I don't think Pakistan should be playing both of them.
Argh, Malik cleaned up by Bandara. Really wanted him to score a few more.

Now for me, Afridi should be coming in at #6, Akmal at #7 and Razzaq at #8. Given that Razzaq will probably bowl 10 overs then I don't think his role should be in question. Pakistan have got the three main bowlers (Sami, Asif and Gul) then the three all rounders to bowl 20 overs between them (Afridi, Razzaq, Malik). Fairly simple stuff I would've though, although if Mohammad Hafeez was still opening the innings then there would be one allrounder too many for my liking. As it is, I like it.
 

Xuhaib

International Coach
I think Razzaq's role must be brought into question, really. He's in the side principally as a batsman and yet he's down to come in at 8. Seems to happen a lot with Afridi/Razzaq - personally, as useful as they are down the order and as bowling options, I don't think Pakistan should be playing both of them.
Development of Fawad Alam would hopefully see the back of one of these two.
 

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Hameed will struggle against top sides so I would still have Younis over him but will make him bat at 5 as I feel Malik is the one who should be batting at 3, from what I have seen of Fawad Alam he looks a quality limited overs bat and I am sure he will be able to find a place in the top 6 somewhere.
Anyone that wants Younis Khan in the ODI side needs a good slapping if you ask me, no offence. I am pretty happy with Hameed at #3 and Malik at #5, but because they can play both positions then they are quite interchangeable either side of Yousuf. Hameed has been a bit of a minnow basher, but has all the tools to succeed and just needs a bit of faith placed in him.
 

Prince EWS

Global Moderator
Argh, Malik cleaned up by Bandara. Really wanted him to score a few more.

Now for me, Afridi should be coming in at #6, Akmal at #7 and Razzaq at #8. Given that Razzaq will probably bowl 10 overs then I don't think his role should be in question. Pakistan have got the three main bowlers (Sami, Asif and Gul) then the three all rounders to bowl 20 overs between them (Afridi, Razzaq, Malik). Fairly simple stuff I would've though, although if Mohammad Hafeez was still opening the innings then there would be one allrounder too many for my liking. As it is, I like it.
I don't think Razzaq's bowling is good enough any more for him to be selected principally for his bowling. I rate his batting in the lower order in ODIs but if he's going to bat at #8, I don't see a lot of use in it, TBH. I'd rather a bowling allrounder like Arafat for example be selected - he's a better bowler than Razzaq and can bat.
 

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Development of Fawad Alam would hopefully see the back of one of these two.
I'll see how this young Fawad Alam turns out before making too many judgements. He hasn't played a lot of List A games but his numbers are impressive.
 

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I don't think Razzaq's bowling is good enough any more for him to be selected principally for his bowling. I rate his batting in the lower order in ODIs but if he's going to bat at #8, I don't see a lot of use in it, TBH. I'd rather a bowling allrounder like Arafat for example be selected - he's a better bowler than Razzaq and can bat.
I don't rate Yasir Arafat very highly TBH, although if he continued to improve his bowling then I wouldn't have much of a problem with him replacing Razzaq. His attitude and fielding are infinitely better as well, which could prove to be valuable assets when he tries to stake a claim in the side.
 

Prince EWS

Global Moderator
Development of Fawad Alam would hopefully see the back of one of these two.
He's more a batsman who can bowl himself though, isn't he? I'm not really saying Afridi and Razzaq are bad players as such - I just don't think Razzaq is a good enough bowler to be selected in the role he's been given. His batting is good enough for him to bat #7 and be a fifth/six bowling option, but Afridi is there already. His bowling has declined to a point where he can't be selected as a bowler, IMO.

Alam himself is a batsman who bowls judging by his stats, so shoving him at #8 wouldn't be good either.
 

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The wheels are falling off here for Pakistan, currently 234/5 after 38 overs.
 

Xuhaib

International Coach
Anyone that wants Younis Khan in the ODI side needs a good slapping if you ask me, no offence. I am pretty happy with Hameed at #3 and Malik at #5, but because they can play both positions then they are quite interchangeable either side of Yousuf. Hameed has been a bit of a minnow basher, but has all the tools to succeed and just needs a bit of faith placed in him.
Younis is not a #3 bat for ODI's i am sure he will do a better job batting at #5 when the field opens up.
 

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He's more a batsman who can bowl himself though, isn't he? I'm not really saying Afridi and Razzaq are bad players as such - I just don't think Razzaq is a good enough bowler to be selected in the role he's been given. His batting is good enough for him to bat #7 and be a fifth/six bowling option, but Afridi is there already. His bowling has declined to a point where he can't be selected as a bowler, IMO.

Alam himself is a batsman who bowls judging by his stats, so shoving him at #8 wouldn't be good either.
I would put Alam at #6, in place of Afridi. If Afridi gets his act together then he could make the team as a spin bowler all-rounder and bat at #8 with bowling as his main discipline.
 

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Younis is not a #3 bat for ODI's i am sure he will do a better job batting at #5 when the field opens up.
Younis Khan shouldn't be anywhere near the ODI side, simple as really. 2 hundreds in almost 150 innings just isn't acceptable. If you think he would do well at #5 then have a look how he has done there in the past, 48 innings and an average of less than 30. He's just not good enough, no matter how well he does in the Test team.
 

Prince EWS

Global Moderator
Younis is not a #3 bat for ODI's i am sure he will do a better job batting at #5 when the field opens up.
I'd say the opposite, actually. Younis relies on boundries - he needs to bat in the top 3 so he can come in early when there aren't as many fielders on the ropes. His placement isn't terrific even on his boundary-scoring shots though, which makes him fairly poor in general as a one day batsman, really.
 

Xuhaib

International Coach
He's more a batsman who can bowl himself though, isn't he? I'm not really saying Afridi and Razzaq are bad players as such - I just don't think Razzaq is a good enough bowler to be selected in the role he's been given. His batting is good enough for him to bat #7 and be a fifth/six bowling option, but Afridi is there already. His bowling has declined to a point where he can't be selected as a bowler, IMO.

Alam himself is a batsman who bowls judging by his stats, so shoving him at #8 wouldn't be good either.
Alam is a completley different batsman then these two he is what I would call a touch player ,yes batting him at 8 would not be good but if he finds a place in the top 6 then one of Razzler or Affers would have to be dispatched since Alam would also provide some bowling options.
 

Xuhaib

International Coach
Younis Khan shouldn't be anywhere near the ODI side, simple as really. 2 hundreds in almost 150 innings just isn't acceptable. If you think he would do well at #5 then have a look how he has done there in the past, 48 innings and an average of less than 30. He's just not good enough, no matter how well he does in the Test team.
Would still rate him over Hameed tbh.
 

Prince EWS

Global Moderator
Alam is a completley different batsman then these two he is what I would call a touch player ,yes batting him at 8 would not be good but if he finds a place in the top 6 then one of Razzler or Affers would have to be dispatched since Alam would also provide some bowling options.
I think you just need a better bowler for #8, really. Razzaq's bowling is not good enough to justify his selection there, no matter how good his batting is. Afridi's would be I suppose, but that'd leave you with only three seam bowling options + Afidi, Malik and Alam. Not ideal either.
 

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Afridi gone for 1, Pakistan teetering at 237/6. Here's hoping that Razzaq and Akmal can come home strongly.
 

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