***Official*** Sri Lanka in India

[Jono]

I'm for Sachin too, because his impact hasn't only been seen with his batting but also the little things he does on the field and behind the scenes (Pathan's promotion, the tactics behind Atapattu's dismissal in the 2nd ODI match), he's just added something to the Indian team they were obviously lacking.

 

[honestbharani]

He was doing a lot of discussion and field placing even today. IT was obviously one of those days when his ideas didn't work, but really, it is obvious that it is a different Indian side when he is there.

 

[Pratters]

This really will be pretty tough for India, and as so often the trend has been that we win two consecutive games only to lose the next one or even the next two for that matter, so i'm not confident on our batsmen doing well this game. You know, the law of averages thing.

The law of averages meant Dhoni had to make some runs after two matches

 

[Pratters]

...and the choker chokes again !!!

If this was in reference with Tendulkar getting out, it was in very poor taste.

 

[SJS]

This has to be the three most remarkable wins in succession ever by the Indian cricket team. I cant remember when they ever won three matches in a row so convincingly when they were expected to lose.

Each match has been more remarkable than the earlier one.

Can anyone remember a similar run in ODI's by an Indian team that was considered underdogs at the beginning ?

 

[Pratters]

This has to be the three most remarkable wins in succession ever by the Indian cricket team. I cant remember when they ever won three matches in a row so convincingly when they were expected to lose.

Each match has been more remarkable than the earlier one.

Can anyone remember a similar run in ODI's by an Indian team that was considered underdogs at the beginning ?

One of the Sahara Cups where Ganguly ran wild?

 

[Jono]

I think I remember what you are referring to Pratyush, but I think when you take into account the whole Chappell/Ganguly saga, Tendulkar returning and India ranked #7 in ODIs and losing final after final, these 3 wins have to be one of the biggest in a long time. Its been just remarkable, and I hope India can secure the 4th win and carry on the momentum they have so they can win the series.

I don't think India have won a ODI series since their tour to Pakistan in 2004, am I right?

 

[Pratters]

I if remarkable one days have to be considered, there are many which spring to mind for India (lesser than the remarkable losses where they should have won matches though )

Did India win three matches in a row in the World Cup 1983?

The current winning streak is remarkable because most of the one day series being held in India were being decided in the last one or two matches. And the pre series what occured makes it all remarkable.

Also the fact that Sri Lanka has een dominating India recently.

I felt the One day series win in Pakistan was quite special. But it wasnt three consecutive matches.

The Champions Trophy in which India reached the finals would be similar to the current Run - this was where Yuvraj and Zaheer Khan made an impact. India were coming to terms with match fixing horrors and played very well.

 

[Sanz]

If this was in reference with Tendulkar getting out, it was in very poor taste.

oh really...you have been just set a target of 299 and your best batsman throws his wicket away..

 

[Pratters]

oh really...you have been just set a target of 299 and your best batsman throws his wicket away..

You play well in two matches and are out in one and next thing you know, you are labelled CHOKER.

Bah.

 

[Sanz]

I'm for Sachin too, because his impact hasn't only been seen with his batting but also the little things he does on the field and behind the scenes (Pathan's promotion, the tactics behind Atapattu's dismissal in the 2nd ODI match), he's just added something to the Indian team they were obviously lacking.

I guess it has to be Dravid and Chappell. I find it funny when people say that SRT has added this and he has added that...because SRT has been in the team for 16 years and was there in almost all the finals we lost in last 2 years. Tendulkar's presence is being overstated, as usual media overhyping things up.

Give credit where it is due. It's all Dravid and Chappell.

 

[Sanz]

You play well in two matches and are out in one and next thing you know, you are labelled CHOKER.

Bah.

Yes, First game India were battin first, not much pressure. Second game India wre chasing low score, hardly any pressure. Firs game where he was required to stay and he is out in the first over. CHOKER.

He was given captaincy twice, both the times made a mess of the team and his batting. Definately cant handle pressure.

 

[Jamee999]

It's what I'm tending to at the moment - the impact of his return, and his scoring like the old Sachin. I just wish he'd made the 183 today rather than getting out for two, that would have really made things easy... any other ideas, guys?

For me, it's gotta be Freddie.

 

[Sanz]

Also the fact that Sri Lanka has een dominating India recently.

and may be that is because we have been playing SriLanka mostly in SL. Last time we lost to SL away from SL was way back in 2001 @ Sharjah. Chasing 299 shut out for 54.

 

[Pratters]

Yes, First game India were battin first, not much pressure. Second game India wre chasing low score, hardly any pressure. Firs game where he was required to stay and he is out in the first over. CHOKER.

He was given captaincy twice, both the times made a mess of the team and his batting. Definately cant handle pressure.

If Tendulkar was a choker , he would have choked and died till now given the load of expectations.

If Tendulkar could not handle pressure, he would not have been the back bone of Indian batting.

You give it all to Chappell-Dravid and say Tendulkar is given more credit than its due by the media. Well the media has called Tendulkar selfish, the media has jumped on him at every instance during the past one and half years as if its his fault he is not being able to make runs.

What had India done in the period Tendulkar was struggling in the past one and half years as a team? If I remember correctly, the match in the 99 world cup where India lost to Zimbabwe was the match Tendulkar missed due to his father's death. They were not sure they could win without him versus Kenya too were they? He had to come back early and he did like the team man that he is.

Its India the team which performs pathetically and people blame it on Tendulkar. And even when they win and he scores less, they will jump at him saying CHOKER CHOKES AGAIN!

 

[Neil Pickup]

For me, it's gotta be Freddie.

Er, October, Jamee. Freddie has done naff all.

 

[Sanz]

If Tendulkar was a choker , he would have choked and died till now given the load of expectations.

If Tendulkar could not handle pressure, he would not have been the back bone of Indian batting.

You give it all to Chappell-Dravid and say Tendulkar is given more credit than its due by the media. Well the media has called Tendulkar selfish, the media has jumped on him at every instance during the past one and half years as if its his fault he is not being able to make runs.

What had India done in the period Tendulkar was struggling in the past one and half years as a team? If I remember correctly, the match in the 99 world cup where India lost to Zimbabwe was the match Tendulkar missed due to his father's death. They were not sure they could win without him versus Kenya too were they? He had to come back early and he did like the team man that he is.

Its India the team which performs pathetically and people blame it on Tendulkar. And even when they win and he scores less, they will jump at him saying CHOKER CHOKES AGAIN!

Blah Blah blah...I have never said he isn't a great player or isn't a team man....SRT was still there when India lost to Pak in India. So it's not like that India suddenly started failing in his absence. India have failed since WC 2003 and tendulkar was part of the team most of the time. India's failure had more to do with Sourav's captaincy and his performance than tendulkar's absence.

In any case it is too early to say anything..it has been only 3 games and we have been playing SL away from SL.

 

[Pratters]

Blah Blah blah...I have never said he isn't a great player or isn't a team man....

You said two posts earlier he cant handle pressure and reiterated he is a choker.

And then did not respond to what I said saying you have never denied him being a great player.

Firstly, can a player be great if he cant handle pressure or chokes?

Secondly, respond to the pressure points I have raised already.

After you have done that, please tell me how there was no pressure in the first two games Tendulkar played. Flat tracks yes. But no pressure on making a come back after an injury?

I daresay, there was more pressure in the first two games than the third one as Tendulkar had already made some runs in the first two one dayers. Your claim that Tendulkar got out because India had a huge total to chase and he chokes and could not handle the pressure is very much hollow.

 

[marc71178]

why do u say that marc?

Because if a player is doing a good job in a role, then there's no reason to move him elsewhere IMO.

 

[marc71178]

Pathan always struggles to bowl at the death, he really needs to improve on that because he's getting belted.

Alternatively, why don't they use him earlier in the innings and get someone else at the death?