I read the same trash on TOI and had the exact same reaction. They claim that Ganguly can match Yadav's wicket-to-wicket economical bowling, that's ********. Ganguly's fielding, running between the wickets and bad attitude are also against him in comparison to Yadav. Besides, the fact that they were so desperate that they had to compare Ganguly (a specialist batsman) with an all-rounder to prove his merit says enough.Arjun said:Now I know Indiatimes' slide shows are nothing but trash. Their latest offering ridicules the selectors for 'picking the 31-year-old JP Yadav over the 33-year-old Ganguly', like it's the biggest mistake they could ever make!
So what if he's so old? What do they want? A team full of teenagers? No please! Not more Parthiv Patels!
Then they do a skill-for-skill comparison with Ganguly. Sure, Ganguly may have far better ODI figures, but they're primarily because of his glory days in the late 90's. He now struggles like a one-day misfit, so much that JP can't be far worse than him. Not to mention, his running between wickets is absolutely chaotic, often nonexistent.
Then they compare their bowling abilities. If Ganguly was really as good as JP Yadav as a bowler, why doesn't he bowl as many overs as the strikers? Why does he just come on for an over or two? And why would the selectors actually look for all-rounders when they have him? Because Ganguly NEVER took his bowling seriously- he now bowls in the 110's, with an action of a three-year-old child, and no-balls countless times. Even as captain, he never took it upon himself to bowl his full quota of ten overs a match. And in Tests? He rarely or never bowled!
As for JP, he has not only bowled the bulk of his State/Zone team's overs, but he's also often bowled with the new ball. He now bowls extended spells, with a rather good action, and has got more pace, even if it's only in the 120's. His fielding may not be of the same standard as Sodhi or Sharma, but he does little wrong. There's a reason why he was picked. He serves a purpose. And the selectors should be complimented for that.
Bad show, Indiatimes.
Or may be this SL team isn't as good as it is made out to be. Earlier they had great players like Desilva and Ranatunga whose performance would mask the weakness of other batsmen. TBF, except for Sangakkara, I am not impressed by any SL newcomer (batsman..that is) and it is showing up in their performance.JASON said:SL absolutely at sea against the rejuvenated Indian Team led by Sachin, the Dravid/Chappell leadership Team and the brilliance of Pathan .
This is heading for the worst drubbing SL have ever had in India.
Some of the over-inflated SL batsman who show off their best against the might of Bangla and Zim and keep their best for home grounds , don't seem to be able to do the same against India in Indian pitches or are badly out of touch , and are trying to find excuses for their poor batting .
Some of the old men at the top of the order are particularly noticeably struggling .
Exactly...that's what happens when you use one or two games to prove your point.honestbharani said:Well, it is too early to say, but if what happened over the last week keeps happening (as I hope it does), I think he will have an easy job proving those guys wrong.
And you are referring to what exactly.Sanz said:Exactly...that's what happens when you use one or two games to prove your point.
I would not say this is it for Ganguly. Come backs from more unlikely positions have occured in Indian cricket.aussie said:so what is this it for Ganguly or what?
Yeah I completely agree, I was finally thinking over the last 8 or so months maybe the SL side was back to being a quality outfit, but clearly I was mistaken. I was totally speechless and shamed as I listened to the match on radio.JASON said:SL absolutely at sea against the rejuvenated Indian Team led by Sachin, the Dravid/Chappell leadership Team and the brilliance of Pathan .
This is heading for the worst drubbing SL have ever had in India.
Some of the over-inflated SL batsman who show off their best against the might of Bangla and Zim and keep their best for home grounds , don't seem to be able to do the same against India in Indian pitches or are badly out of touch , and are trying to find excuses for their poor batting .
Some of the old men at the top of the order are particularly noticeably struggling .
I quite like that order, actually. Not really sure about Samaraweera though - although he has improved in this area of late, he really doesnt take enough singles to be considered a number 3 for ODIs. He heavily relies on boundaries and could easily become bogged down in an ODI.He has suggested Sangakara to open with Thiranga with Samaraweera at three and Atapattu at four or five. He also suggests that Jayasuriya when he comes back after the prescribed rest should bat at number six. That gives a top order like
1. Sangakarra
2. Thiranga
3. Samaraweera
4. Jayawardane (I guess)
5. Atapattu
6. Jayasuriya
A bit like Laxman, I guess.Prince EWS said:I quite like that order, actually. Not really sure about Samaraweera though - although he has improved in this area of late, he really doesnt take enough singles to be considered a number 3 for ODIs. He heavily relies on boundaries and could easily become bogged down in an ODI.
Laxman-like, but much more exaggerated.honestbharani said:A bit like Laxman, I guess.
esp. on our flat ODI tracks and smallish grounds. These spinners can easily get slaughtered unless they have something special up their sleeves.Prince EWS said:Laxman-like, but much more exaggerated.
His bowling could be quite useful in ODIs I guess, but with the likes of Dilshan, Jayasuirya, Chandana etc, does one really need another batsman who can bowl spin?
Yeah I was listening to Chesterfield on the audio commentary at Cricbuzz.com (Man he has an irritating voice though, very screechy like there's a spanner stuck in his throat) during the 2nd ODI and he was suggesting this. I definitely think they need to rest Jayasuriya. That batting order looks alright, I reckon Sangakkara must become a permanent opener from now on because Atapattu and Jayasuriya don't have many years left.SJS said:There is an article today by Trevor Chesterfield in which he suggests resting Jayasuriya for a few games till his shoulder heals and he is able to bowl as well as field (proving he is fit I presume) as well as Murali.
He has suggested Sangakara to open with Thiranga with Samaraweera at three and Atapattu at four or five. He also suggests that Jayasuriya when he comes back after the prescribed rest should bat at number six. That gives a top order like
1. Sangakarra
2. Thiranga
3. Samaraweera
4. Jayawardane (I guess)
5. Atapattu
6. Jayasuriya
The complete article
Samaraweera is a good option in theory. Forget about his bowling ability, he is handy, but he is a better batsman than a bowler. He would definately put some structure into that batting line up, but the thing is, he has never delivered in one day matches, look at his average in test cricket (50.41) and then his one day average (17.54).SJS said:There is an article today by Trevor Chesterfield in which he suggests resting Jayasuriya for a few games till his shoulder heals and he is able to bowl as well as field (proving he is fit I presume) as well as Murali.
He has suggested Sangakara to open with Thiranga with Samaraweera at three and Atapattu at four or five. He also suggests that Jayasuriya when he comes back after the prescribed rest should bat at number six. That gives a top order like
1. Sangakarra
2. Thiranga
3. Samaraweera
4. Jayawardane (I guess)
5. Atapattu
6. Jayasuriya
One hasnt much of an idea about Thiranga and Samaraweera. What do Sri Lankan fans like Jason think of this suggestion.