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*Official* Sri Lanka in Australia 2010
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Matt79
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Remember when I rang up SEN in between the Sri Lanka tour and the India tour in 07, told the guy that Brett Lee was going well at the moment, but was very nearly a spent force (I think I said 07/08 was the last summer we'd see him bowling in tests in Australia), that Johnson was decent, but too erratic to be an adequate replacement for McGrath and Gillespie, that Tait wasn't a test bowler, and that with MacGill retiring we were going to realise we had no depth in the spin department (not a particularly startling analysis, that last one). Told the guy we'd lose the 09 Ashes. He was a bit dubious, but gave me a round of golf anyway.
Matt79
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Callum Ferguson as next captain?? WTF? Has the world gone mad???
EDIT: I suppose it deflects attention/gives a clue as to the articles credibility from the article suggesting North
EDIT: Cam White winning that poll - in a Sydney newspaper ffs!
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Furball
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Like in the 2007 World Cup?
Australia went into that on the back of a 3-0 defeat in the Chappell-Hadlee series, as well as a 2-0 defeat in the CB final to England. They'd lost 6 out of 7 ODIs going into the World Cup - didn't stop them performing when it mattered most and steamrolling everyone who stepped in their path.
flibbertyjibber
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The options in that poll are hardly great.
They may as well have put Phar Lap as a 5th option for a laugh.
They may as well have put Phar Lap as a 5th option for a laugh.
GotSpin
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Similar to 1999 right in a way
Though I don't think you can disagree its a good thing coming into a series with a string of victories on your back
Matt79
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Cam White is generally acknowledged as a good skipper, he's just not quite a good enough FC batsman to have earnt a spot in the test team though. I'd like to see them give him a decent go in the middle order however.
Ruckus
International Captain
Holy **** so did I
Furball
Evil Scotsman
England come into this series having won 7 and lost 1 of their last 8 Tests, having won their last 5 ODI series (P19, W13), and having steamrollered all opposition once they got into the Super 8s of the T20 World Cup.
Australia have lost 3 consecutive Tests for the first time in over 20 years, and have won 3 and lost 12 of their last 15 games across all formats.
While I'd much rather be in England's position, I don't think previous form will count for an awful lot once the series starts. Ashes series, World Cups etc are won by who turns up and performs there and then, not by the team who's been in great form across all formats for the last 6 months.
flibbertyjibber
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The thing is you can't make him captain until you know if he is good enough as a player at international level or you end up in a Lee Germon situation.Unless he is as good a captain as Brearley was of course.
vic_orthdox
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Yeah, to an extent. Happened a few times at the MCG. But still, people get out early at times, that's not as much of an issue as Haddin getting out to a crap ball, or Clarke getting himself out, in terms of what a team needs in international cricket.
Ruckus
International Captain
Btw, does anyone think this is possible?
Have a look at Hussey's batting graph:
HowSTAT! Player Batting Graph
Do you think that seeing as though Hussey's average has only now dropped to around where it should be (50-ish, i.e. he is not an 80 average batsman) he will begin to score again sometime soon? I.e. his excellent start of 3 years of 70+ average, followed by 3 years of 30-40 average just happens to be way he has scored his runs - overall his average does not represent someone who is a struggling batsman.
Or perhaps, he has literally been on a massive decline in ability since those 3 good years, and his average will continue to plummet until retirement.
Have a look at Hussey's batting graph:
HowSTAT! Player Batting Graph
Do you think that seeing as though Hussey's average has only now dropped to around where it should be (50-ish, i.e. he is not an 80 average batsman) he will begin to score again sometime soon? I.e. his excellent start of 3 years of 70+ average, followed by 3 years of 30-40 average just happens to be way he has scored his runs - overall his average does not represent someone who is a struggling batsman.
Or perhaps, he has literally been on a massive decline in ability since those 3 good years, and his average will continue to plummet until retirement.
GotSpin
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Like I mentioned previously, I don't think it'll matter much either, but Australia would obviously want to be coming into the series with a better run.
GotSpin
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This pretty much. He looks a shallow form of the player that blew everyone away in his early test years. The longer he plays the lower his average will go.
Unfortunately, the selectors would agree with you
Prince EWS
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Yeah it was a poor defensive shot but lets face it, everyone's a bit shaky first ball. He faces much better bowlers than Perera every time he goes out to bat for Victoria and here are his Shield averages for the past three seasons:
2009/10: 47.00
2008/09: 57.75
2007/08: 49.86
To ignore all that and judge him on one ball when he was as vulnerable as a batsman gets definitely seems a bit harsh to me. He's the most qualified middle order batsman in the country who isn't in the Test team, isn't retired and isn't Dave Hussey. Three seasons in a row averaging high 40s to high 50s, combined with his excellent cricket brain, the fact that he's the best slipper in the country and his ODI knocks under pressure should really put him right in the frame.
I do get the feeling he'd be a bit North-like, but we're not going to get better credentials than what he has to offer. I'm not saying he should definitely be in the team but he should be in the frame - ahead of Marsh, Ferguson etc and ahead of Mike Hussey too.
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Spark
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Oh of course not. Clarke's dismissal especially was an absolutely horrid shot and really did change the match, they really were cruising then.
Was just making the point that that dismissal shows his technique may not be as good as some wouldl like to think and may not be Test standard.
Ruckus
International Captain
But does he really look that much worse? Or is it simply the amount of time he keeps getting out which makes us think that? Could it be like the situation with Ponting, where he has actually looked in good touch but keeps getting out?
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Spark
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Oh no he looks bad. Not quite as bad as 2008-9 but that's not saying much.
GotSpin
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Nah
Hussey looks in awful touch. Barely manages to hit the ball of the square while scratching around for the occasional single. His dismissals reek of a batsmen past it
Ponting, on the other hand, like he showed in India, looks like he could be ready to break out into another amazing run of form at any moment.