***Official*** South Africa in Australia

[andyc]

Okay fellas, let's just say the weather's fine tomorrow, what should South Africa do? Heals was saying before they should bat till about a 280 lead with 75 overs left in hand, and that, despite it coming from Ian Healy, sounds pretty right I reckon. South Africa will definetely have to give the Aussies a chance of a win if they want to level the series

 

[howardj]

Okay fellas, let's just say the weather's fine tomorrow, what should South Africa do? Heals was saying before they should bat till about a 280 lead with 75 overs left in hand, and that, despite it coming from Ian Healy, sounds pretty right I reckon. South Africa will definetely have to give the Aussies a chance of a win if they want to level the series

I dont know about the theory that they will have to give Australia the chance of a win, if they hope to win the series. On this pitch, I think South Africa will take their wickets by moving the ball around and the odd one keeping low, rather than Australia playing attacking strokes in pursuit of victory.

If, by some miracle, they do get a full day's play tomorrow (making up lost time would mean it would be about 100 overs), I'd bat for an hour (get 100 in 15 overs) and set 280, but with more like 85 overs to dismiss them. I just think they need as many overs as possible and shouldnt be too caught up in whether they lose the series 1-0 or 2-0. A loss, in this situation, shouldnt be viewed as worse than a draw.

 

[Pratters]

If South Africa had a lead of say 220, there would be no question in my mind to declare immediately.

With a lead of 186, It is a dicey situation. Do you make some more runs. The aim of the runs is not to avoid an Australian victory (it is irrelevent whether Australia win or draw the match) but so that Australia dont run away with it and South Africa does not have enough overs as a result to bowl at Australia to possibly get them all out.

I would say bat 3-4 overs, get 20-30 runs and then declare.

No point delaying the declaration too much as overs are needed to bowl Australia out.

 

[TT Boy]

Shaun Pollock just said on the wireless that if any overs are lost, SA will just declare, ideally there would want to add more runs in about 20 overs but as I said earlier “it doesn’t matter if you lose 2-0" (1)


1. Shaun Pollock

 

[Xuhaib]

Bat 10 overs scoring around 80 runs and then declare leaving themselves 90 overs which i think are quite sufficent to force a result.

 

[Josh]

I slept through most of the play. Hodges run-out brilliant tho.

Lost interest in the match.

 

[Beleg]

What's up with Kallis trying to imitate Chris Tavare?

 

[SJS]

What's up with Kallis trying to imitate Chris Tavare?

I like what Ian Chappell said about Kallis. "Kallis is a very predictable batsman. You bowl him a particular delivery he will play a particular shot, EVERYTIME."

I have always found Kallis's batting machine like with no human/indivuidual touch to it. He always leaves me cold. But I have never been able to tel exactly why. I think Cappelli may have provided the answer.

 

[SJS]

Jacques Kallis bats in a bubble, but he seems so consumed by his personal space he is unaware of the team situation or the position of his team-mates.

A prolific, often insurmountable and world-beating batsman, Kallis is so worried about staying on course that he misses the view.

- Peter English - the Australasian editor of Cricinfo​

 

[Pratters]

I like what Ian Chappell said about Kallis. "Kallis is a very predictable batsman. You bowl him a particular delivery he will play a particular shot, EVERYTIME."

I have always found Kallis's batting machine like with no human/indivuidual touch to it. He always leaves me cold. But I have never been able to tel exactly why. I think Cappelli may have provided the answer.

A lot of other things Chappell said about Kallis are far off the mark though.

And Kallis makes runs - so no use grudging him.

 

[SJS]

And Kallis makes runs - so no use grudging him.

Did I do that ??

 

[Langeveldt]

Kallis is uncharismatic and South African which doesn't help his cause..

 

[Pratters]

Did I do that ??

Bringing up the Peter English comment..

Kallis played a very vital and superb knock in the first inning - beneficial to the team cause. Much better than throwing your wicket away.

He complimented Gibbs' agressive batting today - much the same way Hussey was complimenting Ponting's agressive batting.

Yet he is supposed to be a player who doesnt care about the team and quote-unquote misses the team view according to English.

To the people who feel Kallis misses the view and is selfish - bring up some innings where he caused harm to the team or its cause to substantiate the claim.

I see the point you brought up that he may appear a bit predictable and thus boring to a lot of people but not much else.

 

[SJS]

Bringing up the Peter English comment..

Kallis played a very vital and superb knock in the first inning - beneficial to the team cause. Much better than throwing your wicket away.

He complimented Gibbs' agressive batting today - much the same way Hussey was complimenting Ponting's agressive batting.

Yet he is supposed to be a player who doesnt care about the team and quote-unquote misses the team view according to English.

To the people who feel Kallis misses the view and is selfish - bring up some innings where he caused harm to the team or its cause to substantiate the claim.

I see the point you brought up that he may appear a bit predictable and thus boring to a lot of people but not much else.

Thanks for the elaborate reply. Someone mentioned that Kallis was batting like Tavare and I quoted from the lead article in cricinfo today because it says something similar.

Nothing more nothing less.

Good night Pratyush.

 

[Scaly piscine]

Bringing up the Peter English comment..

Kallis played a very vital and superb knock in the first inning - beneficial to the team cause. Much better than throwing your wicket away.

He complimented Gibbs' agressive batting today - much the same way Hussey was complimenting Ponting's agressive batting.

Yet he is supposed to be a player who doesnt care about the team and quote-unquote misses the team view according to English.

To the people who feel Kallis misses the view and is selfish - bring up some innings where he caused harm to the team or its cause to substantiate the claim.

I see the point you brought up that he may appear a bit predictable and thus boring to a lot of people but not much else.

Kallis' innings in this Test do not in any way help either prove or disprove whether he's a selfish batsman. He's batted in his usual style, if his usual style so happens to help the team that doesn't mean he's suddenly not a selfish batsman.

 

[Scaly piscine]

Now if anyone wanted to show what a selfish batsman Kallis is, they'd just look at the 5th Test against England when he blocked away when SA needed to score quick runs to declare.

 

[open365]

I hate Kallis
I hate Kallis
I hate Kallis
I hate Kallis

Poor Gibbs.

 

[Pratters]

Kallis' innings in this Test do not in any way help either prove or disprove whether he's a selfish batsman.

Strangely a large section of the media - many of them, strangely again, Australians who felt at a loss of words when their team did not know how to handle a batsman playing defensively and not in an attacking fashion, do not feel the same and have critcised Kallis in the test.

 

[Gideon]

McGrath officially reprimanded for dissent
ICC Media Release
January 5, 2006

Glenn McGrath has been officially reprimanded for breaching the ICC Code of Conduct during his country's third Test match against South Africa at Sydney.

In a hearing after play on the fourth day, McGrath was found to have breached Level 1.4 of the ICC Code which relates to "using language that is obscene, offensive or insulting and/or the making of an obscene gesture" by Chris Broad, the ICC Match Referee.

The charge was brought by on-field umpires Aleem Dar, Billy Bowden and the third umpire Bob Parry. The hearing was attended by Steve Bernard, Australian team manager, Ricky Ponting, the Australia captain, Glenn McGrath and the on-field umpires.

McGrath had Herschelle Gibbs dropped by Shane Warne from the first ball of the over, and Gibbs finished it with consecutive boundaries to frustrate the bowler, for which McGrath showed dissent.

McGrath is the second Australian to be reprimanded in this Test match after Brett Lee was pulled up for showing dissent on Day 1.

http://content-aus.cricinfo.com/australia/content/story/231758.html

 

[Blaze]

I slept through most of the play. Hodges run-out brilliant tho.

Lost interest in the match.

Lol it is like the only interesting test Aus have played in since the ashes.