*Official* Second Test (Lord's, London) 28 June–2 July

[Qlder]

It's actually kind of nuts that they might only have two days' break between this game and the next.

It's 3 days (Jul 3-5) but still ridiculous

 

[mustardcharlie]

It's actually kind of nuts that they might only have two days' break between this game and the next.

'Cmon let's get his one over with firsr

 

[halba]

Possible eng attack for lords

Mark wood( broad rested)
Chris woakes(Robinson rotated)
Josh tongue(replaces Moeen injured)
James Anderson
Joe root- spinner

Stuart Broad rested after a huge workload, he's also played the Ireland test.

Robinson rotated for Woakes

 

[Qlder]

Stuart Broad rested after a huge workload, he's also played the Ireland test.

Australia will be happy with England resting their best bowler for such a crucial test

 

[Molehill]

Australia will be happy with England resting their best bowler for such a crucial test

Broad and Robinson actually had the best figures by seamers in the entire game....and Halba thinks England would rest them in a game they cannot afford to lose? If there's a change it should be Wood for Anderson, but I have a feeling they'll stick to these 3. The fitness of Moeen probably decides if Wood plays.

 

[social]

I voted for a series draw in the predictions thread as Australia has a poor record in England recently

However, England has only beaten Australia once at Lords since 1934 and we should be favourites here if their bowlers are fit

This could get ugly very quickly for England

 

[mr_mister]

I hope Moeen gets to 200 wickets and 3000 runs. Deserves to be in that exclusive club

 

[G. S. Kohli]

khawaja become 13th player in Test, who batted all 5 days of test.

Records for Test Matches

Player	1st	2nd		Team	Opposition	Ground	Match Date	Scorecard
ML Jaisimha	20*	74		India	v Australia	Eden Gardens	23 Jan 1960	Test # 487
G Boycott	107	80*		England	v Australia	Nottingham	28 Jul 1977	Test # 806
KJ Hughes	117	84		Australia	v England	Lord's	28 Aug 1980	Test # 885
AJ Lamb	23	110		England	v West Indies	Lord's	28 Jun 1984	Test # 990
RJ Shastri	111	7*		India	v England	Eden Gardens	31 Dec 1984	Test # 1007
AFG Griffith	114	18		West Indies	v New Zealand	Hamilton	16 Dec 1999	Test # 1477
A Flintoff	70	51		England	v India	Mohali	9 Mar 2006	Test # 1788
AN Petersen	156	39		South Africa	v New Zealand	Wellington	23 Mar 2012	Test # 2037
CA Pujara	52	22		India	v Sri Lanka	Eden Gardens	16 Nov 2017	Test # 2281
RJ Burns	133	11		England	v Australia	Birmingham	1 Aug 2019	Test # 2353
KC Brathwaite	182	25		West Indies	v Zimbabwe	Bulawayo	4 Feb 2023	Test # 2489
T Chanderpaul	207*	15		West Indies	v Zimbabwe	Bulawayo	4 Feb 2023	Test # 2489
UT Khawaja	141	65		Australia	v England	Birmingham	16 Jun 2023	Test # 2507

 

[halba]

I hope Moeen gets to 200 wickets and 3000 runs. Deserves to be in that exclusive club

i dont see moeen playing especially with the injured finger- needs atleast 2 weeks to heal

 

[Burgey]

Broad and Robinson actually had the best figures by seamers in the entire game....and Halba thinks England would rest them in a game they cannot afford to lose? If there's a change it should be Wood for Anderson, but I have a feeling they'll stick to these 3. The fitness of Moeen probably decides if Wood plays.

Unless someone is injured, I don't think any of the quicks would be rested on fatigue-related grounds. There's a decent gap before Lord's so everyone ought to recover in time.

I guess they might think about rotating someone out in the knowledge there's so short a break til the 3rd test, but given the state of the series it will probably be all hands on deck for the second and they'll worry about he third in due course. Will all come down to the pitch and the forecast I suppose.

 

[Molehill]

khawaja become 13th player in Test, who batted all 5 days of test.

Records for Test Matches

Player	1st	2nd		Team	Opposition	Ground	Match Date	Scorecard
ML Jaisimha	20*	74		India	v Australia	Eden Gardens	23 Jan 1960	Test # 487
G Boycott	107	80*		England	v Australia	Nottingham	28 Jul 1977	Test # 806
KJ Hughes	117	84		Australia	v England	Lord's	28 Aug 1980	Test # 885
AJ Lamb	23	110		England	v West Indies	Lord's	28 Jun 1984	Test # 990
RJ Shastri	111	7*		India	v England	Eden Gardens	31 Dec 1984	Test # 1007
AFG Griffith	114	18		West Indies	v New Zealand	Hamilton	16 Dec 1999	Test # 1477
A Flintoff	70	51		England	v India	Mohali	9 Mar 2006	Test # 1788
AN Petersen	156	39		South Africa	v New Zealand	Wellington	23 Mar 2012	Test # 2037
CA Pujara	52	22		India	v Sri Lanka	Eden Gardens	16 Nov 2017	Test # 2281
RJ Burns	133	11		England	v Australia	Birmingham	1 Aug 2019	Test # 2353
KC Brathwaite	182	25		West Indies	v Zimbabwe	Bulawayo	4 Feb 2023	Test # 2489
T Chanderpaul	207*	15		West Indies	v Zimbabwe	Bulawayo	4 Feb 2023	Test # 2489
UT Khawaja	141	65		Australia	v England	Birmingham	16 Jun 2023	Test # 2507

That's a good list, with Flintoff being far the least likely to appear on it.

 

[halba]

Unless someone is injured, I don't think any of the quicks would be rested on fatigue-related grounds. There's a decent gap before Lord's so everyone ought to recover in time.

I guess they might think about rotating someone out in the knowledge there's so short a break til the 3rd test, but given the state of the series it will probably be all hands on deck for the second and they'll worry about he third in due course. Will all come down to the pitch and the forecast I suppose.

Probably mark wood for moeen if moeen is unfit , may be the only change then. Root to bowl spin.

 

[Molehill]

Unless someone is injured, I don't think any of the quicks would be rested on fatigue-related grounds. There's a decent gap before Lord's so everyone ought to recover in time.

I guess they might think about rotating someone out in the knowledge there's so short a break til the 3rd test, but given the state of the series it will probably be all hands on deck for the second and they'll worry about he third in due course. Will all come down to the pitch and the forecast I suppose.

The current forecast is not that great, suggesting an element of rain on all 5 days. Nothing heavy, but damp, overcast and drizzly. You don't drop Anderson in those conditions.

 

[Burgey]

If it's flat I reckon Starc may play for Boland. If it's meant to be cloudy then Neser might get a run. Either one strengthens the batting I guess, but if the wicket looks like it will deck, then Boland will probably keep his spot.

 

[Burgey]

The current forecast is not that great, suggesting an element of rain on all 5 days. Nothing heavy, but damp, overcast and drizzly. You don't drop Anderson in those conditions.

Sounds like this might be the weather effected draw which I exclusively predicted ahead of the series.

 

[CartyDurham]

I don’t know if you overseas fans know but the ECB has decided this Ashes should be played in a six week window so their ridiculous 100 can be played in peak summer when the schools are off

they are trying to create a new audience by alienating the current fans of cricket

 

[Molehill]

Sounds like this might be the weather effected draw which I exclusively predicted ahead of the series.

The one thing it does do is perhaps make England's selection easier. They can probably afford to leave out Moeen for Wood.

I suspect the forecast will change as the BBC app hasn't exactly committed to anything on any day. But sure to help the seamers if it's cloudy.

 

[Qlder]

Some trivia, in the 11 Ashes Tests in England since start of 2015, score is 5-5 (the only draw was of course at Lord's last series)

 

[mustardcharlie]

Possible eng attack for lords

Mark wood( broad rested)
Chris woakes(Robinson rotated)
Josh tongue(replaces Moeen injured)
James Anderson
Joe root- spinner

Stuart Broad rested after a huge workload, he's also played the Ireland test.

Robinson rotated for Woakes

Reckon they will bring in Wood for Anderson as the only change if Mo is fit to bowl. If not then Woakes or Tongue with Root and Stokes to "spell" them. Would love to see them choose one of the young spinners, (Raheem, Jacks, Dawson) get a go, but really it all depends on the admin from Stokes and Baz downwards.

 

[Starfighter]

However, England has only beaten Australia once at Lords since 1934 and we should be favourites here if their bowlers are fit

Twice. 2009 and 2013.