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[33/3from3.3]

Take the link to the "Kane returns to RAW" video....Absolute gold. And that pop was something else.

 

[Majin]

I'm still a big Kane fan to be honest, always been a fan of his. Love his 4 ring posts exploding thing, one of the best done Pyro's in WWE for mine. I really would like them to give him one last run as an absolute monster heel, just turn him back into a total psychopathic sadistic monster and have him destroy everyone in his path. Set fire to some people and all that malarky.

Speaking of pops as well, got Mick Foley Hits and Misses DVD for christmas, finally got around to watching the Hell in a Cell again. Man, that match will never get old for me, one of the most intense things I have ever seen in my life on any form of entertainment or sport or anything else you care to mention. I still stand by the claim of "Good God almighty, good God almighty, they've killed him! As God as my witness, he is broken in half" being the best sports call ever. Such emotion and real feeling J.R's voice, it couldn't have been more perfect. The whole match is just crazy, the pop when Foley starts climbing up the cage for the second time, just seeing him sitting there with that tooth sticking out of his nose trying to show off the hole in his lip he was able to stick his tongue through, and then having the sheer guts to go through with the rest of the match even with the injuries he'd compiled...crazy. Props to the Undertaker as well for guiding a clearly buggered wrestler through the match, anyone less experienced might have totally ballsed it up. Not a classic in a sense of wrestling but surely one of the most exciting and unbelievable matches of all time.

 

[GotSpin]

Kane is so fat these days. Lost all of his muscle and is so slow in the ring. Used to love him though

 

[sledger]

on the Subject of big pops, I think the biggest I have ever heard, is probably when HHH returned to RAW after recovering from his Quad injury, brilliant.

 

[Majin]

Another one involving HHH was at Summerslam back in the day where he had a Ladder match for the Intercontinental title against The Rock, when he pulled the belt off the place absolutely exploded, it was amazing.

 

[sledger]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=50PBYg8eqI0&feature=related

theres the return to RAW one, just listen to the crowd there...fantastic.

 

[sledger]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p8Lgs1ELA10&feature=related

speaking of good crowd reactions lol, here's another, great the way the fans sing along, miss ECW.

 

[GotSpin]

That was preety cool.

The best pop ever, i still maintain, was when Mankind defeated Rock for the championship on Raw

 

[sledger]

The best pop ever, i still maintain, was when Mankind defeated Rock for the championship on Raw

great match, great pop, great all round imo, the match was pretty decent to begin with, DX and the corporation interfering and the whole thing turning into a brawl was awesome, then Austin shows up and hell breaks lose, classic, good old days.



on another note, looks as if it will be HHH vs Regal at the Royal Rumble, should be a good match, I'd actually be interested in seeing that tbh, the fact that HHH now isnt in the rumble (although i'm sure that may yet change) will make it interesting to see who wins it, hopefully there will be a few surprises this year, and all the participants not named beforehand.

 

[Pratters]

Haha. I don't mind Cole too much, he's a good foil to JBL. Prefer him to Joey "I love ECW so much it hurts sometimes" Styles, at any rate, although that's partly because my appreciation of the original ECW is minimal. Just watch Sandman wrestle a match where he's not allowed to use his Kendo stick and you'll see what I mean.

I have One Night Stand 2006 on DVD - they don't sell a lot of wrestling DVDs over here in France, but I live on my own at the moment and it gets boring, so I buy whatever I can find - and there's a Kurt Angle vs Randy Orton match on there. Not only are the fans stupid enough to mark out for Kurt Angle despite him having previously expressed his "utter disgust" with the ECW product on his one and only visit there, they were also chanting "Boring" and "We want blood" during a match between Angle and Randy Orton. Angle is possibly one of the greatest technical wrestlers of all time - if you're going to chant "Boring" during a match involving him, you clearly have no appreciation for actual wrestling, as differentiated from just plain violence.

I urge you to watch the Rise and Fall of ECW documentary and the TNA documentary on ECW. ECW was great. The crowd reactions they got was amazing and the wrestling was not bad either, whatever I have seen. Paul Heyman was a genius. Even the Smackdown shows he did were better than Raw PPVs during the time - those was gun Smackdowns having Angle, Benoit, Mysterio and all. The ECW WWE has is just an imitation of the original ECW and you cannot get a feel of what ECW was back in the day by watching WWE's versions of it right now or watching ECW the last year or so. ECW in it's last rung looked a poor man's version of WWE and WCW with violence. The original ECW was solid in my opinion. Please watch the two documentaries to get a feel of what ECW was. I cannot claim to watch any live shows of ECW as they were never broadcast in India but I have watched several matches and read a lot about them since then. ECW was not just bash you in the head, give me blood stuff. The fans were not stupid ****s. They were very knowledgeable wrestling fans and every one involved in ECW at the time acknowledges that. If they didn't like a wrestler or were repetetive, you were booed out of the building. It meant that the unimaginative suffered while the innovative thrived - a reason Sabu was such a huge draw in ECW.

 

[sledger]

was a huge fan of the old ECW, used to watch it when it was on Bravo, the days when supercrazy and psicosis were actually used as proper wrestlers (and awesome they were too), rather than humiliated as jobbers with a crap gimmick.

Really hope we get someone decent and surprising win the rumble this year, and (although I dont really have a problem with him, I'd like to see Batista eliminated as a title match with him in really doesnt appeal to me whatsoever at the current time) maybe see a heel win it for once, cant remember the last time that happened. Someone like Lashley may also be decent to see win it, would have been good to see Matt Hardy win it, but that would have always been unlikely and now impossible due to his injury. As long as the winner is none of Batista, Undertaker, Kennedy, JBL, Big Daddy V, Mark Henry or the Great Khali I will be happy, ideally it would be won by an up and comer like Shelton, Punk, Lashley, Morrison, but we all know that probably wont happen.

 

[DJellett]

So the reason for JBL's return becomes clear -- a reason for mass use of pyro!

Hard to see any other point to it...

 

[33/3from3.3]

So the reason for JBL's return becomes clear -- a reason for mass use of pyro!

Hard to see any other point to it...

Was wandering if someone would bring that up...Wasted so much time.

 

[Barney Rubble]

was a huge fan of the old ECW, used to watch it when it was on Bravo, the days when supercrazy and psicosis were actually used as proper wrestlers (and awesome they were too), rather than humiliated as jobbers with a crap gimmick.

Really hope we get someone decent and surprising win the rumble this year, and (although I dont really have a problem with him, I'd like to see Batista eliminated as a title match with him in really doesnt appeal to me whatsoever at the current time) maybe see a heel win it for once, cant remember the last time that happened. Someone like Lashley may also be decent to see win it, would have been good to see Matt Hardy win it, but that would have always been unlikely and now impossible due to his injury. As long as the winner is none of Batista, Undertaker, Kennedy, JBL, Big Daddy V, Mark Henry or the Great Khali I will be happy, ideally it would be won by an up and comer like Shelton, Punk, Lashley, Morrison, but we all know that probably wont happen.

Well, hate to burst your bubble, but if we're assuming that the WrestleMania main events are gonna be Edge vs 'Taker and HHH vs Orton, and HHH can't enter the Rumble, then that leaves 'Taker as the Rumble winner again.

 

[DJellett]

Well, hate to burst your bubble, but if we're assuming that the WrestleMania main events are gonna be Edge vs 'Taker and HHH vs Orton, and HHH can't enter the Rumble, then that leaves 'Taker as the Rumble winner again.

Which would utterley suck and be far too predictable.
Why not Batista??
Would like to see a twist on the angle though, perhaps a new challenger for the Heavyweight title...no clue who though.

 

[DJellett]

Was wandering if someone would bring that up...Wasted so much time.

Ruined the show for mine, took 15 minutes for one short promo and a small squabble with Y2J.
Can't understand his return at all, really has nowehre to go for mine. Would much prefer a younger talent given such a massive push

 

[Agent TBY]

Well, hate to burst your bubble, but if we're assuming that the WrestleMania main events are gonna be Edge vs 'Taker and HHH vs Orton, and HHH can't enter the Rumble, then that leaves 'Taker as the Rumble winner again.

Why? You could get someone going after the ECW belt after winning the Rumble.

Though I think the E would feel they're wasting the Rumble on a storyline, then.

 

[Barney Rubble]

Why? You could get someone going after the ECW belt after winning the Rumble.

Though I think the E would feel they're wasting the Rumble on a storyline, then.

Yeah, seeing as the ECW belt has mid-card status these days I very much doubt the Rumble winner would go after it. Besides, I'm looking forward to either Punk vs Benjamin or Punk vs Chavo at 'Mania for it, both of those would be excellent.

Someone mentioned the possibility of Batista winning the Rumble - if that happened I may actually cry. I think it's very unlikely though - HHH will want to be high on the card at 'Mania, and there's a reason he didn't beat Jeff at Armageddon. He wants his title shot at WM24 and not at the Rumble.

If we assume 'Taker vs Edge is a given thanks to the great buildup and history behind it, then we've got Orton vs A.N. Face Challenger as the other main event. If Batista were to challenge for the WWE belt he'd have to switch brands, which I can't see happening just yet unless someone moves over from Raw. HHH won't be in the Rumble which means if he's gonna be in the WM main event he's gonna have to win the Elimination Chamber at No Way Out, which I'd expect to happen. Whoever wins, HHH vs HBK vs Jeff Hardy vs Umaga vs JBL vs Chris Jericho in an Elimination Chamber to be an AWESOME match for NWO.

 

[Majin]

God damn, Batista better not win the Royal Rumble. We've only just FINALLY got him out of the title picture, let's keep it that way.

 

[sledger]

Yeah, seeing as the ECW belt has mid-card status these days I very much doubt the Rumble winner would go after it. Besides, I'm looking forward to either Punk vs Benjamin or Punk vs Chavo at 'Mania for it, both of those would be excellent.

Someone mentioned the possibility of Batista winning the Rumble - if that happened I may actually cry. I think it's very unlikely though - HHH will want to be high on the card at 'Mania, and there's a reason he didn't beat Jeff at Armageddon. He wants his title shot at WM24 and not at the Rumble.

If we assume 'Taker vs Edge is a given thanks to the great buildup and history behind it, then we've got Orton vs A.N. Face Challenger as the other main event. If Batista were to challenge for the WWE belt he'd have to switch brands, which I can't see happening just yet unless someone moves over from Raw. HHH won't be in the Rumble which means if he's gonna be in the WM main event he's gonna have to win the Elimination Chamber at No Way Out, which I'd expect to happen. Whoever wins, HHH vs HBK vs Jeff Hardy vs Umaga vs JBL vs Chris Jericho in an Elimination Chamber to be an AWESOME match for NWO.

Where that elimination chamber line up would be awesome, I would rather HHH didnt win, just because we have seen him feud over a world title so many times...Similarly it would be nice to see someone else headline wrestlemania, I also am seriously beginning to question why the E pushed Edge so hard when Christian was left out in the cold, Christian is pretty much superior to edge in every aspect, and Edge is a very capable performer.

Another thing that is getting to me is that it already seems Y2J is just being used up as a mid card jobber, I wouldnt be at all surprised if he Jobs to JBL at the royal rumble and then again to whoever he faces at WM, which would be worse than him never coming back at all imo, I was all for a return of Y2J, but not as a midcarder, the guy is obviously a main event standard performer but due tp HHH not liking him or whatever its unlikely he will get any recognition, at the moment the major title matches for mania are shaping up to be really uninteresting for me personally.