Official Pro-Wrestling Thread (WWE, TNA, ROH etc.)

[honestbharani]

Yeah played a a lot last year but mainly with the original database the stats are more in sync with the game played the Mexican scene to death.

is it a free ware?

 

[SirBloody Idiot]

is it a free ware?

Nah. Though they are releasing 2005 for free on July 1.

 

[honestbharani]

Nah. Though they are releasing 2005 for free on July 1.

wow gr8.. shud try for some links to download that.

 

[Jono]

in fact I can't recall another 60 minute match being held again since, though for some reason I think there has been....?

Lesnar vs. Angle on Smackdown. 2003 I think.

 

[sledger]

One thing I can't really stand at the moment is people who really criticise the new ECW just because it's not the same Extreme, revolutionary product that it was in the 90's.

What you have to understand is that time has passed and it's not that day and age anymore where you just go out and shock the hell out of the audience. TNA is learning from this as every time they do something to shock the audience it comes across as cheap, tacky and gimmicky.

Sure the new ECW may not be Extreme or Hardcore but it is living up to the original ECW's legacy by having outstanding wrestling on it week in and week out, giving the young guys in the WWE a chance to shine and not having boring time wasting promos or bad comedy. If you're a wrestling fan, you will enjoy ECW and what it brings which is great wrestling, no crappy segments all in just one hour of television.

While Smackdown maybe the best wrestling show on television at this point, Raw has absolutely nothing on ECW. It may not be Extreme, but it's still a really good show every week.

Yeah agreed, if you actually want to watch "wrestling" then ECW kicks Raws ass every week, and has done for quite some time imo, even back in the days when Bobby Lashley was still around it was still better. I remember watching a fatal 4 way between RVD, Kevin Thorne, Stevie Richards and Tommy Dreamer, was great.

 

[sledger]

Lesnar vs. Angle on Smackdown. 2003 I think.

Thought it may have involved angle. Remember his 30 minute one on RAW with HBK as well, that was quite good, though I never quite worked out if the ending was botched.

 

[duffer]

Haven't watched much WWE for a few months now. Who would you guys say are the most proficient mat technicians in the business right now(apart from Benjamin and Haas)? Any new guys who've shown they have a strong base to do something with?

 

[sledger]

Scramble match announced for the ECW title at The Bash, imagine this will be a way to keep thetitle on Tommy Dreamer and cover up the fact that he's not as sharpe in the ring as Christian and Jack Swagger, needless to say, this doesn't particularly interest me, but might be worth a watch.

 

[sledger]

Haven't watched much WWE for a few months now. Who would you guys say are the most proficient mat technicians in the business right now(apart from Benjamin and Haas)? Any new guys who've shown they have a strong base to do something with?

Tyson Kidd and DH Smith have looked pretty decent in what I have seen of them. Jack Swagger is also pretty impressive if a bit green.

 

[duffer]

Tyson Kidd and DH Smith have looked pretty decent in what I have seen of them. Jack Swagger is also pretty impressive if a bit green.

Hmm, reason I asked was while watching the UFC 99 presser, Dana White said he believes they now had the financial clout to headhunt the best young wrestling talent and see if they can make them into top MMA guys provided they had a strong enough background.

Said this included WWE he said and that they were agressively looking at the best youngsters from the American feds and European all the time.

 

[masterblaster]

Haven't watched much WWE for a few months now. Who would you guys say are the most proficient mat technicians in the business right now(apart from Benjamin and Haas)? Any new guys who've shown they have a strong base to do something with?

Chris Jericho, Jack Swagger, Christian, Finlay, William Regal, DH Smith and Tyson Kidd would be on my list for being the best technically right now.

 

[masterblaster]

Hmm, reason I asked was while watching the UFC 99 presser, Dana White said he believes they now had the financial clout to headhunt the best young wrestling talent and see if they can make them into top MMA guys provided they had a strong enough background.

Said this included WWE he said and that they were agressively looking at the best youngsters from the American feds and European all the time.

I could see Jack Swagger doing very well in MMA.

 

[sledger]

Hmm, reason I asked was while watching the UFC 99 presser, Dana White said he believes they now had the financial clout to headhunt the best young wrestling talent and see if they can make them into top MMA guys provided they had a strong enough background.

Said this included WWE he said and that they were agressively looking at the best youngsters from the American feds and European all the time.

Hmm interesting, though Kidd and Smith are both quite decent technically I haven't really got the impression that they would be well suited to an MMA type environment. Mind you, that said, didn't Santino used to be an MMA fighter?

 

[duffer]

Hmm interesting, though Kidd and Smith are both quite decent technically I haven't really got the impression that they would be well suited to an MMA type environment. Mind you, that said, didn't Santino used to be an MMA fighter?

He had a strong submission based gimmick in OVW didn't he? Wouldn't be surprised if he had some sort of MMA background but from what I've heard hasn't been competitive in any pro feds yet.

EDIT: Doubt they'd look at hime anyway, he seems too slow for the welterweights and would be eaten alive if he went up to middleweight in any semi decent competition.

 

[masterblaster]

Hmm interesting, though Kidd and Smith are both quite decent technically I haven't really got the impression that they would be well suited to an MMA type environment. Mind you, that said, didn't Santino used to be an MMA fighter?

Santino was an MMA fighter, but I don't think he really made it to a top level. He seems to be a more natural entertainer though and he's good for WWE.

 

[duffer]

Santino was an MMA fighter, but I don't think he really made it to a top level. He seems to be a more natural entertainer though and he's good for WWE.

Yep, really like the guy. Has a natural gift for comedy.

 

[sledger]

Santino was an MMA fighter, but I don't think he really made it to a top level. He seems to be a more natural entertainer though and he's good for WWE.

Yeah completely agree, is great fun to watch, just a shame he isn't a little bit better in the ring mind you. Hope they give him some sort of regular segment rather than him dressing up in drag, as he is best when he just gets on the mic and rants about stuff.

 

[SirBloody Idiot]

Lesnar vs. Angle on Smackdown. 2003 I think.

Cena-Michaels would have gone very close on a London Raw a few years back.

 

[GIMH]

The below from Wiki is the Iron Man Matches ever held in the WWE, 4 1-hour and 1 30-minute matches. obviously there may have been other hour lnog matches as well.

 

[sledger]

Mr. Kennedy updated his official website (ken-kennedy.com) with the following blog about his "injury prone" reputation:

If I take a sledgehammer and SMASH you in the side of the head and you get hurt very badly, does that make you "injury prone"?

If I cut off your arm with a samurai sword, and you have to have it reattached (causing you to miss several months of work) are you also then to be considered..."injury prone"?

Well let's say that you're in a match in Italy standing on the apron during a ten man tag match, and a guy is supposed to come over and give you a little forearm which will cause you to drop to the floor, but INSTEAD, he decides to drop kick your ass into the 20th row, he virtually leg presses you off the apron, and you have a "Matrix" like moment in your head where you see yourself flying backwards through the air. You clear the mats that line the floor outside the ring and because you're trying to protect your head from smashing into the guardrail, you stretch your right arm over your head. At the moment you make IMPACT with the concrete floor, your arm stretched out over your head and the sudden stop causes the tendon in your latissimus dorsi (or that big back muscle that you see on bodybuilders, ya know the ones that look like wings...) to SNAP in two and it coils up down your side to the point that's in line with your belly button. Let's say.....hypothetically.......that this happened to you. Would you call yourself...."injury prone"?

Let's throw another "hypothetical situation" out there. Let's say that you're having a match with a guy who's just supposed to give you a lil' old schoolboy to end the match. Just a nice and easy rollup for the finish. In fact the night before he hit you with his finish and the crowd didn't really react as strongly as you would have liked it to, so the agent (or producer) who's in charge of your match that night has told your opponent specifically NOT to hit his finish. Now keep in mind that having said this, your opponent's finisher is probably the furthest thing from your mind. So as you're waiting for this nice little easy rollup for the finish, the guy leaps into the air, hooks your head tight, causing your right arm to get caught between your two bodies, and drives you chest first into the mat. You go from standing to laying on your stomach with your arm stretched across your chest and your shoulder pops out of it's socket, tearing that muscle about 60% away from the bone. Now again, would an event such as this make you......"injury prone"?

Now if something like this HAD ever happened to me (again, these are strictly hypothetical situations), I probably wouldn't say anything about it to anyone. I for one would never want to bury another talent, whine or cry about it, I'd probably just chalk it up to poor judgment, and being in the wrong place at the wrong time, rather than accusing someone of being a stiff in the ring. Let's face it, accidents happen in the wrestling business which is why there are countless videos of "wrestling screw-ups" on YouTube. Every once in awhile if you're in the wrestling business, you're gonna get a BOO-BOO.

Seems a bit sour, but then again, I can understand his frustrations.