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*Official* - Pakistan in New Zealand 2010/2011

Woodster

Woodster

International Captain
Flem274* said:
Oh, and on the topic of Williamson batting at three...

Would you rather him in at 1/30 or 4/60? Because so far in his short career he's been coming in when things have been dire for NZ. Far less pressure knowing you'll either be in within 80 balls or watching McIntosh bat all day.

When he bats at six and we collapse, he only has Vettori and Young behind him in the order. That's a lot of pressure. At number three he can bat when the **** hasn't hit the fan yet, even if the score is 1/5 or something.
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Batting at number three brings with it its own pressures, a position synonymous with batting your best player there, not sure that is exactly the case, but. When he comes in at six with the score on 60/4 I wouldn't think as a youngster he'll feel too much pressure, there's little expectation if the main men, the experienced batsmen have all failed. Any contribution will be well received. At three there will be pressure to score big.

Going in early obviously has its problems, hard ball generally, moving around, it's a whole new game, one I think he could grow into, just not yet.


Prince EWS said:
To be fair though, they did so because their 'regular' positions were occupied; not to protect them.

I bet that if Wright asked Williamson where he wanted to bat, he'd say three. He bats three in First Class cricket and there's an opening at three in the team that no-one else wants. I can see the argument for batting him down the order but it's becoming more and more tenuous as time goes on - the obsession with handlinhg him with kid gloves come what may to the balance of the rest of the team is getting pretty ridiculous IMO.
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Why don't one of the more experienced players step up into that position. Asking a lot of Williamson in the long term to nail the number three position. It's not necessarily handling him with kid gloves, just doing the right thing and being patient with his development. I'm not saying he cannot succeed doing it on a temporary/one-off basis, but for me, he is best served currently at around number 5 or 6 while he gets to know his own game inside out.

It seems he is going to bat at 3, so I hope I'm wrong and he scores big today.
 
wellAlbidarned

wellAlbidarned

International Coach
Gotta say, this lineup looks good on paper with everyone batting in position for once. Setting myself up for disappointment, I know.:sleep:
 
Woodster

Woodster

International Captain
Yes he might have thought he'd get the benefit of the doubt with the bounce, but it looked a good shout. Never leave anything to chance with Umpire Harper, use your stick Brendon!

Massive test for Williamson, come on son.
 
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Looked even higher than that to me real time. Harper with another boob.

What were you doing though, McCullum.
 
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Woodster said:
Batting at number three brings with it its own pressures, a position synonymous with batting your best player there, not sure that is exactly the case, but. When he comes in at six with the score on 60/4 I wouldn't think as a youngster he'll feel too much pressure, there's little expectation if the main men, the experienced batsmen have all failed. Any contribution will be well received. At three there will be pressure to score big.

Going in early obviously has its problems, hard ball generally, moving around, it's a whole new game, one I think he could grow into, just not yet.

Why don't one of the more experienced players step up into that position. Asking a lot of Williamson in the long term to nail the number three position. It's not necessarily handling him with kid gloves, just doing the right thing and being patient with his development. I'm not saying he cannot succeed doing it on a temporary/one-off basis, but for me, he is best served currently at around number 5 or 6 while he gets to know his own game inside out.

It seems he is going to bat at 3, so I hope I'm wrong and he scores big today.
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Perhaps not ideal but Williamson's simply far, far too good to bat at six in this lineup. No way around that.

He's so good he doesn't even need to look around after edging it :D. 1-1 in bloopers. Badly needs referrals.

EDIT: Wait, that was Guptill.
 
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Mike5181

Mike5181

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Good to see the umpires are still ****ing ****. Australia/England ODIs have the review system but not PAK/NZ test series. Nice message to us.
 
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