***Official*** Pakistan in England

[Xuhaib]

Asif and Broad = McGrath and Pollock for this decade ?

 

[Laurrz]

Not sure about Broad...haven't seen him

but Mohammad Asif is an ABSOLUTE GUN!!!!!

10 overs 3/28... KP Strauss, Tres ...can't get bigger english wickets....

KP has no idea if he is swinging it in (bowled) or out (caught behind)

and i'm loving it

if things stay like it is Mohammad Asif is for sure the next Glenn McGrath without a shadow of doubt

 

[Nate]

Easy tiger. I claimed Asif first.

 

[TT Boy]

Easy tiger. I claimed Asif first.

TT was advocating for his selection before the test series against England last winter.

 

[Nate]

I named him.

 

[TT Boy]

I named him.

 

[social]

Not sure about Broad...haven't seen him

but Mohammad Asif is an ABSOLUTE GUN!!!!!

10 overs 3/28... KP Strauss, Tres ...can't get bigger english wickets....

KP has no idea if he is swinging it in (bowled) or out (caught behind)

and i'm loving it

if things stay like it is Mohammad Asif is for sure the next Glenn McGrath without a shadow of doubt

Asif has performed 3 times on this trip

On 2 of those occasions he has bowled in perfect conditions for his style and returned good figures

In the second innings at the Oval, the conditions were better for batting and he was hit around the park.

He has potential but let him bowl for a few more years before we label him as anything more than a good prospect.

 

[Laurrz]

Asif has performed 3 times on this trip

On 2 of those occasions he has bowled in perfect conditions for his style and returned good figures

In the second innings at the Oval, the conditions were better for batting and he was hit around the park.

He has potential but let him bowl for a few more years before we label him as anything more than a good prospect.

he is definately an excellent prospect
u think hes only done well against England?
against India on flat decks he killed Sehwag, Laxman, Dravid and what not....
and then in Sri Lanka messers Jayawardene, Sangakkara, Jayasuriya had no idea what he was doing with the ball
also in that 2nd innings he cold've easily ahd two wickets rather than one as Iqbal dropped an absoulte sitter

young as well... young guys like him rarely have the smartness and composure as this kid

just watch this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3O99K7SOg7Y

KP is no dud...

i agree lets see him in the next couple of years... coz lots of good bowlers do well at the start then fall off..spescially ***** ... but i think tihs kid is a diff breed..... we'll see tho... personally IMO he can only get better...he has brains

 

[Xuhaib]

Actually Asif has not bowled aswell as he bowled before his elbow injury(maybe still rusty). He has been lucky to bowl in favourable conditions since his return and the only time he bowled in batting conditions was at Oval in the 2nd innings and despite the dropped catch he looked quite below par in that innings.

His 20/20 pereformance has certainly been his best on this tour, for Pakistan's sake I hope he keeps on getting better and better.

 

[Laurrz]

yep, to be able to get 4 big wicket sin the first innings having JUST recovered for an elbow injury is amazing anyway

 

[Magrat Garlick]

Actually Asif has not bowled aswell as he bowled before his elbow injury(maybe still rusty). He has been lucky to bowl in favourable conditions since his return and the only time he bowled in batting conditions was at Oval in the 2nd innings and despite the dropped catch he looked quite below par in that innings.

Fair point. Similar with Broad, I suppose, will be interesting to see how he goes on a Saturday morning at a Lord's which has been fairly flat all year. If it's sunny, he could very well be hammered.

 

[Run like Inzy]

Just bad luck for Pakistan! They looked like gettin there easy but for the rain. Anyways Asif looks like he could be turning into one of the greats. He seems to have all the qualities. The over against Pietersen was one of the best I've seen from a Pakistani bowler recently. He gives each delivery thought and bowls to a plan, something which people like Gul and Sami can learn from.
Anyway can't wait for Lords, just hope we get a result, and another wicket which has something in it for the seamers.

 

[Barney Rubble]

A point that has been in need of discussion for some time now - Andrew Strauss as an ODI opener. Why?

 

[ClownSymonds]

Pakistan are unlucky. They're about to win a test match, and Umpire Hair decides against them. They're about to win an ODI, and rain denies them.

Shoaib is the Ronaldo of cricket. You almost expect him to get injured every other match he plays. However, he held up well this time, and bowled quite nicely, as he usually does. Too bad he didn't get Gough at the end - that man damaged his spell stats.

Rana was very unlucky. He bowled beautiful outswing at the beginning of his spell, but sadly missed the edge. He was the only Pakistani bowler who went for runs, and had he a bit of luck, even he probably would've ended up with around 4 an over.

Asif bowled wonderfully well, especially to Kevin Pietersen. KP really does seem clueless as to how to play him.

Broad was quite impressive on debut. If he can bowl those cutters consistently, he should always give right-handed players who don't use their feet trouble. Malik and Younis would probably agree.

 

[Run like Inzy]

Pakistan are unlucky. They're about to win a test match, and Umpire Hair decides against them. They're about to win an ODI, and rain denies them.

Shoaib is the Ronaldo of cricket. You almost expect him to get injured every other match he plays. However, he held up well this time, and bowled quite nicely, as he usually does. Too bad he didn't get Gough at the end - that man damaged his spell stats.

Rana was very unlucky. He bowled beautiful outswing at the beginning of his spell, but sadly missed the edge. He was the only Pakistani bowler who went for runs, and had he a bit of luck, even he probably would've ended up with around 4 an over.

Asif bowled wonderfully well, especially to Kevin Pietersen. KP really does seem clueless as to how to play him.

Broad was quite impressive on debut. If he can bowl those cutters consistently, he should always give right-handed players who don't use their feet trouble. Malik and Younis would probably agree.

The Lbws which Broad got in the 20/20 and ODIs do seem a little lucky when compared to some of the ones Pakistan didn't get. Anyway Broad does look a good prospect but I remember Anderson being a similar type of bowler and England didn't treat him too well

 

[Run like Inzy]

A point that has been in need of discussion for some time now - Andrew Strauss as an ODI opener. Why?

Strauss as opener has had enough time to show his worth and he doesn't seem able to do the job. Maybe Bell should be given a try like in the 20/20 game, what about Alastair Cook in the ODIs instead of someone like Rikki Clarke (a pointless selection in my opinion). England seem to have gone back to their old habbit of selecting players who can neither stake their claim as bowlers or batsmen.

 

[SpaceMonkey]

The Lbws which Broad got in the 20/20 and ODIs do seem a little lucky when compared to some of the ones Pakistan didn't get. Anyway Broad does look a good prospect but I remember Anderson being a similar type of bowler and England didn't treat him too well

umm maybe i misread your post but Broad and Anderson are completely different types of bowler!

 

[ClownSymonds]

The Lbws which Broad got in the 20/20 and ODIs do seem a little lucky when compared to some of the ones Pakistan didn't get. Anyway Broad does look a good prospect but I remember Anderson being a similar type of bowler and England didn't treat him too well

I didn't see the 20/20 match, but Broad certainly got Malik in the ODI, and could've had Younis as well. But I wasn't going on the results so much as the way he was able to get the batsmen on the back foot and strike them on the pads. Anderson, I think, was much shorter than Broad and didn't have as much natural bounce. Broad is Glenn McGrath's height, which certainly helps his potential.

I agree that Rikki Clarke was a pointless selection. England would've been better off with Ronnie Irani.

 

[Run like Inzy]

umm maybe i misread your post but Broad and Anderson are completely different types of bowler!

I meant both were young bowlers who hadn't had a lot of FC experience and bowled right arm fast medium, funnily they both bat lefthanded too! There style is different though.

 

[Scaly piscine]

I meant both were young bowlers who hadn't had a lot of FC experience and bowled right arm fast medium, funnily they both bat lefthanded too! There style is different though.

Meaningless comparison because there are plenty of others that have improved that are 'similar'. Anderson has a different action which England knacked up by trying to change, all Broad needs to do is stay fit and he'll keep getting better.