***Official*** Pakistan in England

[Anil]

As my son is prone to saying... "Not working...". It's a help guide to using BBC audio. Maybe you missed a redirect?

hey s_l welcome back, it's been a while....

 

[Neil Pickup]

Now you will dictate how i will post on this board.

I'll stop attempting humour in future, shall I? Making the same post 19 times in a row doesn't make it any more relevant.

 

[Xuhaib]

Does anyone recall the comment by Inzamam after he was declared out obstructing the ball in a One Dayer against India recently ? It went along the lines of " Last game I was given out for not hitting the ball, today I was given out for hitting it."

If Pakistan have forfeited this game, I sense another gem coming our way, "We lost the last test because we showed up. Now they say we've lost for not showing up"

Not funny.

 

[greg]

As my son is prone to saying... "Not working...". It's a help guide to using BBC audio. Maybe you missed a redirect?

Go here - http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/cricket/default.stm and it's just below the main story on the left

You may need real player or media player

 

[Jamee999]

Now you will dictate how i will post on this board.

That's his job.

 

[Isolator]

But instead they decided to call Hairs bluff and it failed big time. They would have probably won this test, but instead its going to go down as an England win or abandoned or just stripped of Test status completely (the last 2 options would be a total farce tbh).

If the ultimate result of all this is that Hair is kicked out of international cricket, then I think Pakistan have done everyone a huge favour. Because I can assure you that absolutely nothing would have happened had they followed the "correct procedure" and complained afterwards.

 

[Xuhaib]

I'll stop attempting humour in future, shall I? Making the same post 19 times in a row doesn't make it any more relevant.

The similiar posts had to be made because thick skulled people over here (including you) were not getting the point.

btw you are welcome to Karachi if your goverment allows you to come.

 

[BoyBrumby]

Umpires must be free to make the right decisions without undue outside pressure. Due to Pakistans antics this evening, can you imagine the pressure on umpires the next time they suspect a team is ball tampering? (especially if its Pakistan), Thats its totally unacceptable.

What if a player claims a catch but is then told by the umpires it didnt carry, does that player storm off and refuse to take the field because the umpires didnt take his word for it? Players cannot hold games to ransom no matter how much 'in the right' they are or think they are. This goes for any sport not just cricket.

If Pakistan had a problem with the decision then they should have gone about it in the proper ways. But instead they decided to call Hairs bluff and it failed big time. They would have probably won this test, but instead its going to go down as an England win or abandoned or just stripped of Test status completely (the last 2 options would be a total farce tbh).

I totally agree with the sentiment, I'd say tho that that hasn't been possible in effect for several years due to the whole chucking/Murali issue*. No ump with ideas of a long test career would ever dare call a player for chucking no matter how bad his action looked to the naked eye. Shabbir Ahmed's looked dead-set rotten in the first test over in Pakistan, but he was only punished after the fact.

*I hasten to add that I don't want to suggest Murali throws, but he has (possibly unwittingly, possibly not) advanced the argument!

 

[Xuhaib]

That's his job.

I dont think there was any swearing involved.

 

[open365]

Does anyone recall the comment by Inzamam after he was declared out obstructing the ball in a One Dayer against India recently ? It went along the lines of " Last game I was given out for not hitting the ball, today I was given out for hitting it."

If Pakistan have forfeited this game, I sense another gem coming our way, "We lost the last test because we showed up. Now they say we've lost for not showing up"

 

[greg]

If the ultimate result of all this is that Hair is kicked out of international cricket, then I think Pakistan have done everyone a huge favour. Because I can assure you that absolutely nothing would have happened had they followed the "correct procedure" and complained afterwards.

Still yet to hear an explanation of what Hair did wrong. His decisions were all perfectly explicable within the laws of the game. Sure you disagree with him, but then you have access to less information than him.

 

[Jono]

Let's take a chill pill guys.

 

[Jono]

Still yet to hear an explanation of what Hair did wrong. His decisions were all perfectly explicable within the laws of the game. Sure you disagree with him, but then you have access to less information than him.

Law 1.0, Being a jackass.

 

[FRAZ]

Let's take a chill pill guys.

Excellent Jono !!!

 

[Slow Love™]

It seems pretty obvious that this is the reason Darrell Hair is refusing to continue. He is a bit of a stickler for the rules. Just nobody is publicly saying so in case they decide an England win by forfeit is not the best diplomatic outcome.

Yeah, I think there's a fair chance, even if he only confirmed it in the dressing room when the officials came to report that Pakistan were ready to play -- hence my comment as to the narrative being "left open" to be filled in later.

Like I said, if the umpires -did- award the game to England, it's a very interesting precedent which will be set by the ICC if they override it. Of course, this wouldn't be the first time the ICC have shamelessly hung Hair out to dry.

 

[Jungle Jumbo]

Excellent Jono !!!

$4.00 for 50 capsules Fraz.

 

[steds]

Let's take a chill pill guys.

Oh no. Last time I took a pill, bad things happened...

 

[Lillian Thomson]

If the ultimate result of all this is that Hair is kicked out of international cricket, then I think Pakistan have done everyone a huge favour. Because I can assure you that absolutely nothing would have happened had they followed the "correct procedure" and complained afterwards.

We don't know that Darrell Hair has done anything wrong. We have to wait to see what he says in his report. If he actually saw the ball being tampered with then he's completely in the right. If he guessed because of marks that appeared on the ball then that's another matter. He was completely right to refuse to carry on the game which Pakistan had already forfeited by refusing to play.

 

[Isolator]

The cameras did pick up a lot of very vigorous rubbing of the ball on the trousers, maybe one of the players had an object in his pocket that he was rubbing the ball against.

"Uh-huhuhuh-uh, "object in his pocket" "

"Hehehehe yeah yeah he totally had a hard-on, heheheheeeheheheh"

"Uhhhhhhuhuhhuhuh"

"Hehehheheeeeeehehehe"

 

[FRAZ]

Oh no. Last time I took a pill, bad things happened...

Not the blue one Stedsy ..