Niall
International Coach
Yep and with Jimmy back next test as well. The guy is absolutely doomed in England.
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*Official* Pakistan in England and Ireland 2016
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Shady Slim
International Coach
the thing with pakistan's tail is they're the kind of tail to either fold for next to nothing or edge and waft their way to forty or fifty runs in eight overs, as seen in the first innings, and if that happens that could dictate proceedings
Black_Warrior
Cricketer Of The Year
A South Africa fan should know that this is not even remotely close to the depths Hafeez can sink to as an opener
Niall
International Coach
He has gunned it hard in the UAE and outperformed many English batsman last series. His knock in the third test was gun and won Pakistan the match.
Pakistan don't leave Asia much so he has huge value in the SC, its just when he leaves Asia which is rare he really struggles.
Is it fair to say he is a terrible opener when he so good in Asian conditions where he plays pretty much all his cricket?
Runs in Asia are hard to get these days also
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StephenZA
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The question is why is he still there?A South Africa fan should know that this is not even remotely close to the depths Hafeez can sink to as an opener
MW1304
Cricketer Of The Year
Yeah I get it I made a huge cliche.
It's just easier to look at catching because it's something that should mostly just be done, particularly when it was two completely straightforward ones for the same player. My point really is that even in that patch of the innings where we looked good, Pakistan were still making chance after chance.
It's just easier to look at catching because it's something that should mostly just be done, particularly when it was two completely straightforward ones for the same player. My point really is that even in that patch of the innings where we looked good, Pakistan were still making chance after chance.
Shady Slim
International Coach
see luckily for pakistan they're really 70/1, but they also have shan masood so they're basically 70/2
Jono
Virat Kohli (c)
that's probably fair. Its just the gap between his Asia and non Asia batting is so stark its awful
Niall
International Coach
Yep its absolutely huge, question what other batsman would have the same sort of gap?
flibbertyjibber
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Kohli in England.
Jono
Virat Kohli (c)
haha, God damn it. #wahhKohli in England.
Black_Warrior
Cricketer Of The Year
Hafeez still has a 95 in England. Kohli on the other hand.......Kohli in England.
GIMH
Norwood's on Fire
Not sure he qualifies as a batsman when playing over here with his average of 3.2Kohli in England.
Black_Warrior
Cricketer Of The Year
49% for England
45% for Pakistan.
I would say that's a fair assessment without gambhiring.
45% for Pakistan.
I would say that's a fair assessment without gambhiring.
Black_Warrior
Cricketer Of The Year
Well you won't have to worry about that too much with Anderson and Stokes back then
Scaly piscine
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Yep. England had two batsmen who were in control, Root and Woakes. The rest looked like they were on borrowed time.
Pitch isn't going to get any easier to bat on, and Pakistan will probably bring Yasir Shah on earlier. The tipping point where England are favourites is chasing something in the region of 200-250. Personally I think it is nearer 200. If the pitch really wears then you could say even below 200, but that would be uncharacteristic of Lord's.
Personally I would have England at 25-30% to win. I've seen far too many **** shows against Pakistan. Whatever teams are produced England **** up like they've done so far.
Black_Warrior
Cricketer Of The Year
But here's the thing though. Will Lord's pitch fall apart the same way was as a SC pitch does on Day 4 and 5? Genuine question.