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**Official** Pakistan in Australia Thread

Mister Wright

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Mr Casson said:
Yeah that'd be fine. I don't have a problem with a "horses for courses" policy, as long as the selectors are consistent about it and do not hesitate dropping players like Warne despite their reputations.

I wasn't really being serious.

But, yes you're right. If they do engage in rotation policies, it has to include both Warne & McGrath or done in dead rubbers.
 

Mecnun

U19 Debutant
I think Bob should be a given a year atleast before the knives come out.. Let's wait until after the India series at the very least. Pak have not played many tests under Bob. As a matter of fact Pak play alot more ODI's than they play tests..Compare 14 to Aus's 25 odd this since wc I think..dont quote on me on it. Also Bob cannot help players who insist on cutting balls three feet outside off.
 

Beleg

International Regular
I don't got no bone to pick with Bob Wolmer. He does the best with the resources he has at hand, and It isn't his fault that the team we have right now isn't exactly best representative of our strenght and talent in Cricket.

It saddens me to say so but It's a shadow compared to some of the our teams in the Nineties.

I am looking forwards towards the VB series much more the tests.
 
Choora said:
I think there is no point in playing Imran F or Yasir Hameed as they are totally out of sorts. Afridi can't do the job in australia, maybe Pakistan should try out malik as an opener. My 11 would be,


Malik
Butt
Inzi
Youhanna
Younis
Razzak
Akmal
Sami
Akhter
Danish
Khalil.

Malik is NOT test material, to expect Malik to open in test matches would be unfair to Malik itself.

I think pak should play with 7 batsmen.
 

Dydl

International Debutant
Wouldn't it be hard for the Pakistani selectors to choose only 4 frontline bowlers?
 

SJS

Hall of Fame Member
biased indian said:
i dont remember how many games we got last year or how we performed, but i think we were not that bad :cool:
Come on you guys. Why dont you stop this?

BTW, BiasedIndian, we were noit as bad, we were worse. Just go back and check. In any event forget it.
 

LongHopCassidy

International Captain
I can't fathom how the selectors are considering dropping Warne. Players like him will show their class on any wicket, any day. He has performed on pitches specifically designed to blunt his genius, and still delivered.

All Lee has for his case is raw pace and a favourable pitch. In recent weeks he hasn't even delivered for his state.

Besides, it'll start to turn by Day 4 anyway.
 

Steulen

International Regular
LongHopCassidy said:
I can't fathom how the selectors are considering dropping Warne. Players like him will show their class on any wicket, any day. He has performed on pitches specifically designed to blunt his genius, and still delivered.

All Lee has for his case is raw pace and a favourable pitch. In recent weeks he hasn't even delivered for his state.

Besides, it'll start to turn by Day 4 anyway.
Day 4? He'll cut a lonely figure, out there on a deserted WACA strip bowling his leggies while the rest of Perth is still hung over from celebrating the Test victory.
 

Nate

You'll Never Walk Alone
LongHopCassidy said:
I can't fathom how the selectors are considering dropping Warne. Players like him will show their class on any wicket, any day. He has performed on pitches specifically designed to blunt his genius, and still delivered.

All Lee has for his case is raw pace and a favourable pitch. In recent weeks he hasn't even delivered for his state.

Besides, it'll start to turn by Day 4 anyway.
i dont think it is a serious suggestion, perhaps just amplified rumour.
 

imranrabb

U19 Debutant
Gilchrist wary of Pakistan

Ahead of the first Test against Pakistan at the WACA, Adam Gilchrist has said that Australia would deal with their tempestuous opponents with care. Pakistan's campaign has been a shambles so far, with losses to the main Western Australian team as well as its second XI. However, Gilchrist said that teams often struggled initially before lifting their game as the tour went on.

"I guess it's up to them how they deal with that [the bounce at the WACA] and counter that over the next few days," Gilchrist said to ABC Sport. "All of us have seen Pakistan be hot and cold, whether it's a tour match or an international game. So we'll be wary of them still."

Gilchrist echoed a belief common among former players who had witnessed Pakistan's mercurial ways. Dennis Lillee said, "I think that the Pakistanis are always a team that save their best until it's an interesting game. They are very much a team for the occasion and when they want to they can turn it on."

© Cricinfo
 

Beleg

International Regular
Gilchrist is a nice, diplomatic dude but doesn't need to make excuses for us, I am sure Mr. Inzamam and co are perfectly capable of at least that.
 

marc71178

Eyes not spreadsheets
Steulen said:
Day 4? He'll cut a lonely figure, out there on a deserted WACA strip bowling his leggies while the rest of Perth is still hung over from celebrating the Test victory.
Beat me to it!

I can't see it making Day 5, that's for sure.
 

tooextracool

International Coach
Richard said:
IMO Razzaq is more than capable of playing Tests as a specialist batsman.
because of his brilliant batting average of under 30?
lets not even get to his average outside the sub continent or even his average against all teams other than b'desh against whom hes scored 2 out of his 3 100s.
 

tooextracool

International Coach
Richard said:
IMO the C&U \ VB Series is one of the highlights of ODI cricket - we don't have enough triangulars ATM - and it'd be a real shame to see it cut to a couple of bilateral ODI series.
indeed it is, IMO the series usually provides a fair winner and the best of 3 finals is something that should be used for other ODI tournaments.
 

tooextracool

International Coach
Richard said:
Sadly, most of the recent triangulars have involved either Zimbabwe or Bangladesh.
When you get a good one (NWS2004, NWS2002 for some good examples) it's almost always the best way to produce exhilerating cricket.
i was extremely disappointed with both those series. any traingular that involvees SL away from home ends up with the inevitable result where they dont stand a chance of reaching the finals. nws 2004 was one of those conditions affected series.
IMO the vb series 01 and NWS 98 (texaco trophy whatever),although the latter involved SL, but with a few more capable players away from home and some of the series in sharjah have been worth watching.
 

Crazy Sam

International 12th Man
i've got no problem with 10 ODI's in two 5-match series. After all, CA and state associations will be much happier with a certain 10 ODI's involving Australia as opposed to 8 plus 4 between the visiting countries and 2 in the final series which *may* include Australia. Add the NZ series in and that's 13 certain ODIs involving Australia here over summer, hopefully with the Gabba hosting two of them.

It will be interesting to see how much the format will change in the 2006/7 summer...I think they'll have the ODI series v NZ, then the 5 ODIs against one of the touring sides followed by three tests (probably Gabba, MCG, SCG) followed by two/three tests against the second touring side (at WACA, Hobart, Adelaide), and then 5 ODIs to round it all off, or maybe the 5 ODIs first as it's been made clear that Adelaide want their Test across the Australia Day weekend. Of course when England tour there'd probably be only 5 tests so they might have an extra two ODIs or something, and play a touring side such as Zimbabwe or something like that in a 3-match ODI series....

I think Hobart will be able to handle a test match again, the pitch, stands and general quality of the ground appears to have improved a fair bit over the past two years.
 
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Crazy Sam

International 12th Man
actually i'm looking at the proposed future schedule of who is touring here when, it appears that in 2006/7 we'll have NZ (again!) and England....So I'd imagine we'll play NZ in 2 tests, then 3 ODIs, followed by 5 tests against England and 5 ODIs. Of course CA may decide to stick with the Triangular series, and this schedule is clearly subject to change...

The home series next year appear to be the West Indies and Sth Africa...should be a good summer. Has Graeme Smith even played against Australia yet, in tests or ODIs??
 

dinu23

International Debutant
I'd lve to see pakistan walk away with the test series trophy. what a revalation that will be. If that happens will the australians report to the ICC about the pitch conditions. like they did in India. pathetic!
 

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