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**Official** Pakistan in Australia Thread

Richard

Cricket Web Staff Member
Be nice if there were 2 or 3 serious warm-up games for Inzy and the like to get going, wouldn't it? :@ :(
 

Beleg

International Regular
Agree with you Richard. Would have helped them get in the groove. Still, they played the game at WACA and unless the pitch for the test is totally different from the one being used now, they should theoratically present better results.
 

Richard

Cricket Web Staff Member
Certainly good that the only match was at The WACA if there was only 1 - but of course the preferable thing would be to have 2 games before it at other grounds.
 

Mister Wright

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Beleg said:
Agree with you Richard. Would have helped them get in the groove. Still, they played the game at WACA and unless the pitch for the test is totally different from the one being used now, they should theoratically present better results.

If Cricket Australia revamp their summer, they should make sure the teams play one dayers before tests. I feel it gives the opposition teams a chance to aclimatise to Australian conditions and would make the test series more even.
 

Mister Wright

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Richard said:
You may be right - but would the crowds flock to a VB Series in November?
Possibly. I was thinking more if they scrap the triangular and just play straight one dayers.
 

Richard

Cricket Web Staff Member
IMO the C&U \ VB Series is one of the highlights of ODI cricket - we don't have enough triangulars ATM - and it'd be a real shame to see it cut to a couple of bilateral ODI series.
 

wahindiawah

Banned
SJS said:
I think Pakistan needs both.
That practically means going in the match with jiust three specialist bowlers (as neither Malik nor Razzak are specialist bowlers).

Allrounders are fine in onedayers but in test matches one need specialist.
 

Richard

Cricket Web Staff Member
IMO Razzaq is more than capable of playing Tests as a specialist batsman.
Malik? Gotta say I have my doubts.
 

wahindiawah

Banned
Richard said:
IMO Razzaq is more than capable of playing Tests as a specialist batsman.
Malik? Gotta say I have my doubts.
Yeah, but if both of them do play, then both will be playing coz of their batting and as such Pakistan will be one bowler short.

I think Pak don't wanna give the rookies (khalil,Asif) a chance .
 
imranrabb said:
Good comeback from 78-5 down but still dissapionting.If they bat like this against aus they wont even get past 100.Still if sami can make 24 and he is a tailender why cant the top players do the same.

100 is a figure a batsmen like to get to ,playing anywhere ( especially against Australia). Unfortunately in Pakistan case this is the figure which appears to be unreachable by the effort of combined 11 men while playing against Australia!
 
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Linda

International Vice-Captain
Beleg said:
Anyone in Perth watched the game? If so, can you update us on the pitch condition and the strenght of WA? I cannot use Cricinfo since it is hanging my computer.
WA have a strong batting lineup, but a pretty inexperianced and unsolid attack.
 

Shindig

Cricket Spectator
wa 3/139 Lunch(Akter, Razzaq and Sami 1 wk each) RR 4.21 (a bit high i beleive)

i reckon pak have to get wa all out before they can reach their score or else it indicates they are not going good in the bownling department either..
 

Mr Casson

Cricketer Of The Year
Richard said:
IMO the C&U \ VB Series is one of the highlights of ODI cricket - we don't have enough triangulars ATM - and it'd be a real shame to see it cut to a couple of bilateral ODI series.
Exactly my sentiments. I love the triangular tournaments.
 

Steulen

International Regular
Awful bowling by Pak, by the look of the scorecard at least. Sami 1/104...at the WACA!
A lot of wickets to the spinners, though, so maybe it's an anomalous strip they're playing on. Still, WA 409/9d with Langer to fall very early does not bode well for the Perth Test for Pakistan.

And Triangulars can be good...if all 3 teams are good. VB Series involving Zimbabwe or Bangladesh do nothing for cricket.
 

Richard

Cricket Web Staff Member
Sadly, most of the recent triangulars have involved either Zimbabwe or Bangladesh.
When you get a good one (NWS2004, NWS2002 for some good examples) it's almost always the best way to produce exhilerating cricket.
 

Richard

Cricket Web Staff Member
Steulen said:
A lot of wickets to the spinners, though, so maybe it's an anomalous strip they're playing on.
The WACA tends to produce a turner every now and then - it's inevitable in such a dry climate.
 

Steulen

International Regular
Richard said:
The WACA tends to produce a turner every now and then - it's inevitable in such a dry climate.
True. in recent times both Vettori and Warne have returned great figures at the WACA if I recall correctly.
Still, Sami/Akhtar bowling to a State side at the WACA..you'd expect good figures from the both of them. To see the wickets mainly being taken by Kaneria and the all-rounders makes me not expect a very tight match next week.
 

Mister Wright

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Mr Casson said:
Exactly my sentiments. I love the triangular tournaments.

Triangulars are great when they are competitive, but when there is one team who can barely win or post a challenging total then some of the games and in some cases most of the games lack interest.

I was originally against disposing of the triangular, but if it makes for more compeitive matches than I am all for it.
 

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