**Official** New Zealand v Australia

[Blaze]

I dont think you know what you are talking about, can you name two series Australia have participated in that have given them a distinct advantage in the 50/50 decisions or have you just acted like a sheep and just repeated what most sore losers say about Australia.

NZ v.s. Aus 01/02 tests

and NZ v.s. Aus 04 tests

 

[Blaze]

Clarke doesnt walk, but then one cant expect a newbie to walk anyway ..

Why not?

Its an individual thing. I personally walk in my cricket matches but that is due to the fact that the umpiring standard is generally pretty poor so really it is up to the players to do the right thing.

If he felt strongly about walking then being new to the team wouldnt make the slightest bit difference

 

[Somerset]

No actually.

Many people have been suggesting that opppositional teams against Australia have been given rough calls. The NZ Tour of Aussie in 2001/2 was an example, where Cairns trapped Langer plumb numerous times only to be given not out.

Somerset, you didn't see the game if you thought Lou Vincent was well forward to that delivery he got out to Michael Clarke.

I never said Vincent was well forward:

Vincent wasn't particularly well forward but with the angle Clarke delivers the ball, it was definately missing the stumps. Did you see the decision?

As for the 2001 tour, there were definately a number of decisions that went against us, Cairns in particular. On the final day of the final test, I distinctly remember Steve Waugh edging through to Parore, huge nick that wasn't given. That potentially lost us the chance to win the series.

 

[social]

as would most sane people

If your definition of insanity is knowing when people should be selected, then call me nuts.

Its embarrasing to have commentators debating as to who should be left out of the team for Lee for the match mid-way through the first day of the first test.

In the past 12 months, the Aus selectors have:

1. dropped Kattich for Symonds after the former had scored over 200 runs for once out and taken 5 wickets in his previous test;

2. selected Haurritz in front of MacGill; and

3. failed to pick Lee when everyone knew that he was the bowler the Kiwis feared most.

If the selectors were under the same scrutiny as the players, theyd be dropped by now.

 

[Scallywag]

NZ v.s. Aus 01/02 tests

and NZ v.s. Aus 04 tests

So how many bad decisions did Australia get compared to New Zealand Blaze, I assume you know how many each team recieved.

 

[mavric41]

If your definition of insanity is knowing when people should be selected, then call me nuts.

Its embarrasing to have commentators debating as to who should be left out of the team for Lee for the match mid-way through the first day of the first test.

In the past 12 months, the Aus selectors have:

1. dropped Kattich for Symonds after the former had scored over 200 runs for once out and taken 5 wickets in his previous test;

2. selected Haurritz in front of MacGill; and

3. failed to pick Lee when everyone knew that he was the bowler the Kiwis feared most.

If the selectors were under the same scrutiny as the players, theyd be dropped by now.

Thats why the team has performed so poorly over that period. It doesn't happend to have any co-incidence that all those players that you mentioned are from NSW does it?

 

[Scallywag]

I wasn't sure but when I lip-read Cumming say to Hayden he was "pretty sure" then I was happy with the decision as there was enough doubt even for Cumming himself to be uncertain. Now if he had said, "yep, I definitely caught it" it could have been a different story but I doubt Hayden would have walked anyway. Only St Gilly walks in the Aussie team doesn't he?

Why should Hayden walk when players grass a catch and then try to make out they caught it. Besides nobody in the NZ team ever walks.

 

[shaka]

The ball in the catch was at the top of the hand, so no way grass could have touched the ball, only the angle of the field made it seem otherwise.

 

[Blaze]

Why should Hayden walk when players grass a catch and then try to make out they caught it. Besides nobody in the NZ team ever walks.

How do you come up with that statement?

I thought Fleming did? Maybe I am wrong. Brendon McCullum certainly does.

 

[shaka]

He should be setting an example then

 

[Blaze]

So how many bad decisions did Australia get compared to New Zealand Blaze, I assume you know how many each team recieved.

In the recent tour of Aus including ODI's the count was 11-4 in favour of aus for the 50/50 calls

 

[marc71178]

Spectacular performance by McGrath today, another trademark effort on a pitch with nothing in it. I've never seen him use reverse swing that well before, either.

I didn't think you could teach an old dog new tricks

Surely he's due an injury before the Ashes please!

 

[marc71178]

hence the lol smilies...............

Although I was correct to say so (unless McGrath was bowling so well, I mean luckily, that he'd have got anyone out with those deliveries?)

 

[marc71178]

After seeing the replay, he clearly edged it.

But umpires are only human, and at normal speed I definately didn't pick up that edge.

Reverse the teams and there'd be all hell breaking lose!

 

[marc71178]

In the recent tour of Aus including ODI's the count was 11-4 in favour of aus for the 50/50 calls

Depending on what you term a 50-50...

 

[social]

Thats why the team has performed so poorly over that period. It doesn't happend to have any co-incidence that all those players that you mentioned are from NSW does it?

Im from Queensland and Symonds, Haurritz and Kaspa/Gillespie should never have been picked in those teams.

 

[mavric41]

Im from Queensland and Symonds, Haurritz and Kaspa/Gillespie should never have been picked in those teams.

I can see your reasons for the first two, but never for the last.

 

[FaaipDeOiad]

I can see your reasons for the first two, but never for the last.

Do you think Australia would have struggled for penetration so much on the first morning if Lee had been playing instead of Kasprowicz?

 

[marc71178]

It would have all depended on how he actually bowled!

 

[anzac]

honours even at close of play on Day 2 after NZL (Cumming & Marshall) dominated Day 1..........

brilliant delivery from Warne to dismis Marshal,
and brilliant 10 over spell of reverse swing after lunch from McGrath to clean out the rest of the batting...........

NZL & Vettori catch a lucky break just b4 stumps after having 2 good lbw shouts turned down off the same bowler - once again Vettori seems to have the AUS batsmen looking uncomfortable.........

congrads to O'Brien in the claiming of his maiden Test scalp - been surprised with his pace - as quick as anyone has been thus far with usually a couple of deliveries around 140 kph each over.............Cricinfo has it way wrong to have him listed a medium pace!!!!
only gripe is that both O'Brien & Martin seem to be the same sort of bowler - predominantly inswing deliveries.........

good opening spell from Franklin & good reward to pick up his nemesis in Langer - will be interesting to see how he goes in his subsequent spells...........

Martin started poorly & was guilty of repeatedly bowling too straight & unable to settle onto any sort of length, but his last overs seemed to have got it nearly right with 'only' 1 bad delivery per over - but still room for improvement....................from what I've seen of him I'd say it's a possibility that his success last season may have had as much to do with the early morning dew creating movement as opposed to any great ability from the bowler (didn't his wickets come in the opening sessions v RSA????) I guess tomorrow may give some sort of indication although he won't have a new ball to work with..............

much will depend on how long Ponting remains at the crease & if the NZL seam attack can settle onto the right line & length - let alone extract any reverse swing - if not then I'd expect to see Astle & Macca used to take the pace off leading to the taking of the new ball..............