*Official* New Zealand tour of India 2024

[OverratedSanity]

If I was an Indian fan, I'd be filthiest at Rohit. His bookend shots in this series were of a guy who wasn't prepared to lead - only prepared to dominate if possible and if not, to slog to something significant.

He's absolutely the most embarrassing part of this loss. The guy turned his career around by opting to open and played in a perfectly conventional, non coked-up manner. Seems to have forgotten all of that and smoked the intent ganja just because this approach worked wonders for him in red ball cricket.

And after playing the filthiest hack slog of the series yesterday,to set the team on its way to a series whitewash , he does the thing I despise most about intent memers. Says he doesn't regret it. With a smirk, like he expects to be praised for being so brave. Yes you imbecile, we know youve lost all your braincells. "me big brawny batsman . Me no defend. Me smash ". Because defending and nudging the ball to win is for wimps like Will Young. He'd rather lose 3-0 than have to suffer the indignity of *gasp* batting normally.

 

[SteveNZ]

He's absolutely the most embarrassing part of this loss. The guy turned his career around by opting to open and played in a perfectly conventional, non cooked up manner. Seems to have forgotten all of that and smoked the intent ganja just because this approach worked wonders for him in red ball cricket.

And after playing the filthiest hack slog of the series yesterday,to set the team on its way to a series whitewash , he does the thing I despise most about intent memers. Says he doesn't regret it. With a smirk, like he expects to be praised for being so brave. Yes you imbecile, we know youve lost all your braincells. "me big brawny batsman . Me no defend. Me smash ". Because defending and nudging the ball to win is for wimps like Will Young. He'd rather lose 3-0 than have to suffer the indignity of *gasp* batting normally.

Hahaha I think this is one of my favourite posts of all time.

He seemed to want to criticise the Pant Lbw as well as if it was ultimately what decided the game, not all the stuff before it

 

[Shri]

But, he can respond with one word: "Scoreboard".

is he working with jarrod kimber

 

[centurymaker]

India plays with 5 batters + keeper bat + 5 bowlers, which includes bowling all-rounders. For a long time the specialist batters had been under performing, barring Rohit (who had been good previously), while the all rounders including keeper had been picking up the slack.

This season Rohit's suddenly lost it and the whole lineup has gone in disarray. Yesterday all 5 specialist batters were out with the score at 29/5. Some of the dismissals were shocking for even club level let alone international level. Had the 5 specialists put together even a miserly 59, India would've probably won. But they got just 29! It's just absurd batting.

Even a decent Ranji side would have fared better in my honest opinion. Mumbai, Bengal, Tamil Nadu, Karnataka etc would not be 29/5. It happened when the ball was new and not doing a lot. So it's an abject surrender from the specialist batters.

29/5 in 7.1 overs

 

[RossTaylorsBox]

And after playing the filthiest hack slog of the series yesterday,to set the team on its way to a series whitewash , he does the thing I despise most about intent memers. Says he doesn't regret it. With a smirk, like he expects to be praised for being so brave. Yes you imbecile, we know youve lost all your braincells. "me big brawny batsman . Me no defend. Me smash ". Because defending and nudging the ball to win is for wimps like Will Young. He'd rather lose 3-0 than have to suffer the indignity of *gasp* batting normally.

Thaaaaaaaat's Bazball

 

[Bahnz]

India plays with 5 batters + keeper bat + 5 bowlers, which includes bowling all-rounders. For a long time the specialist batters had been under performing, barring Rohit (who had been good previously), while the all rounders including keeper had been picking up the slack.

This season Rohit's suddenly lost it and the whole lineup has been in disarray. Yesterday all 5 specialist batters were out with the score at 29/5. Some of the dismissals were shocking for even club level let alone international level. Had the 5 specialists put together even a miserly 59, India probably would've won. But they got just 29! It's just absurd batting.

Even a decent Ranji side would have fared better in my honest opinion. Mumbai, Bengal, Tamil Nadu, Karnataka etc would not be 29/5. That was when the ball was new and not doing a lot! An abject surrender from the specialist batters.

Yeah of the top order bats only Kohli and Jaiswal can really claim to have been gotten out. Horrible misjudgement by Gill, no way you can be leaving the ball when the natural trajectory is taking it onto the stumps, Rohit's execution of that pull was Southee-esque, and Sarfaraz just looked mentally scrambled in his 2 ball stay.

 

[RossTaylorsBox]

Apart from that century Sarfaraz looked putrid.

 

[Daemon]

We’ve got away with lower order h4x at home for far too long. Would’ve dropped the series to Aus if not for Axar, and maybe even a test to BD if not for Ashwin and Jadeja putting together a huge partnership. Those two have really been cheat codes for us at home.

 

[capt_Luffy]

@Spark if I get purged, would this thread vanish??

 

[centurymaker]

Yeah of the top order bats only Kohli and Jaiswal can really claim to have been gotten out. Horrible misjudgement by Gill, no way you can be leaving the ball when the natural trajectory is taking it onto the stumps, Rohit's execution of that pull was Southee-esque, and Sarfaraz just looked mentally scrambled in his 2 ball stay.

7.1 overs is all it took to be 5 down.

If Pant hadn't got his 64 runs, India would've been bowled out for like 56, to go with 46 all out. Top score would have been extras.

 

[centurymaker]

If India had won this match, it would have done more harm than good tbh. Because 0-2 down in the series and people were already brushing aside the series defeat. 1st series defeat in a long time, etc. A 1-2 scoreline and they would've moved on from the defeats and not said much about the batting woes.

0-3 and now there's finally a backlash. finally they are talking about the end of Rohit and Kohli if they have a poor tour of Australia. Finally some passengers in the side will be moved on after India get thrashed in Australia.

Kohli and Rohit only got 90 odd runs each in the series, avg 15. Meanwhile Ashwin avg'd 42 with the ball despite tailormade pitches. All three could be gone if they fail and cause India to lose 4-0/4-1/5-0. I mean it'd be 7-8 test defeats in short space of time. No one will survive that barring a miracle

 

[centurymaker]

We’ve got away with lower order h4x at home for far too long. Would’ve dropped the series to Aus if not for Axar, and maybe even a test to BD if not for Ashwin and Jadeja putting together a huge partnership. Those two have really been cheat codes for us at home.

Last year in the 2nd test, India was 137/7 after AUS had posted 263. India was going to lose big. But then Axar got 74 and India won. Next test India lost and final test they prepared a road out of fear of losing. Salvaged a 2-1 win when it couldve been a series defeat. Bazballers weren't too far either. They should've won the 4th test and gone into the decider at least 2-2. Shows India have been very vulnerable the last 2 yrs. And now a few players have regressed even more & suddenly it's game over.

Jan 2013 to Jan 2023 : India lost just 2 Tests at home. Then in the next 12 months lost 2 more tests and several close shaves. Now 3 more. India's lucky Australia is not touring for another 2.5 yrs.

 

[Chin Music]

As an outsider, what I am a bit at a loss as to how giving the same players (the batters and probably Ashwin) the Australia tour and expect a good outcome? That really should be a career ending performance for several of them. I know that you might argue that bringing in new players to the furnace of Australia is really dangerous, but surely you need to look at now the personnel you need to move on from what has just happened.

 

[danzydab]

The lower order kept on bailing India out for years. This time they couldn't do so.
Might as well play Pant as a batsman and bring Jurel in as the keeper.

 

[centurymaker]

Rohit had been quite good too in bailing out the top order. He really tended to do well at home.

This is the 1st season where he's clearly lost it as a player. His drop off has been quick and sudden.

 

[Chin Music]

Rohit had been quite good too in bailing out the top order. He really tended to do well at home.

This is the 1st season where he's clearly lost it as a player. His drop off has been quick and sudden.

Isn't it always a danger that when you have a team with a number of players well into their 30s+ that a drop off in form can be very dramatic indeed? Kohli's poor form has been documented for some time, but now you have him, Rohit and Ashwin looking like they are toast and there are several others whom you can't really rely on for too much longer such as Jadeja and dare I say it, Bumrah? I recall the England 2013/14 team that was such a brutal drop off with many of that squad not playing again after that tour in tests.

 

[Molehill]

Isn't it always a danger that when you have a team with a number of players well into their 30s+ that a drop off in form can be very dramatic indeed? Kohli's poor form has been documented for some time, but now you have him, Rohit and Ashwin looking like they are toast and there are several others whom you can't really rely on for too much longer such as Jadeja and dare I say it, Bumrah? I recall the England 2013/14 team that was such a brutal drop off with many of that squad not playing again after that tour in tests.

Aus are so close to this too with Smith, Khawaja, Hazlewood, Starc, Lyon. The BGT is going to end some careers one way or another and it will be interesting to see the line ups England have to face over the next 12 months.

 

[the big bambino]

Isn't it always a danger that when you have a team with a number of players well into their 30s+ that a drop off in form can be very dramatic indeed? Kohli's poor form has been documented for some time, but now you have him, Rohit and Ashwin looking like they are toast and there are several others whom you can't really rely on for too much longer such as Jadeja and dare I say it, Bumrah? I recall the England 2013/14 team that was such a brutal drop off with many of that squad not playing again after that tour in tests.

Yet they were beaten by a side whose 2 best bowlers were 32 and 34 and 2 of their best 3 batsmen were 36. Aus would've beaten anyone in that form. I don't think Eng's decline could be down to age when they were ashes holders just 3 months before.

 

[Groundking]

Well done NZ that's an amazing result

Lots of ??? over this Indian side, they need to blood some youngsters imo.

 

[Chin Music]

Yet they were beaten by a side whose 2 best bowlers were 32 and 34 and 2 of their best 3 batsmen were 36. Aus would've beaten anyone in that form. I don't think Eng's decline could be down to age when they were ashes holders just 3 months before.

What I was trying to get at was that sometimes a team's decline can set in really quickly and that was the case with that England team and now with this Indian team. You can lose a load of players quite quickly.