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SJS

Hall of Fame Member
Jono said:
To be fair to Ganguly though, our pace bowlers haven't helped him. :(
Sure. But thats why the power play was introduced, to allow the fielding captain options in case the batsmen were running away with the game in the first 15 overs.

Thats why the first change in field was allowed to be made, at the fielding captain's discretion at the end of the tenth over.

Thats why Ganguly should have not gone for the second power play and tried to slow down the game by changing the attack to Harbhajan and co.

If this wasnt a situation made for the fielding captain NOT TO OPT for the second power play immediately after the first, what is ??

Ganguly made a bloomer and a massive one at that.
 

Jono

Virat Kohli (c)
Pathan back into the attack and first ball is dispatched to the boundary. Come on Irfan, after such a good Bhajji over.
 

Neil Pickup

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I think I'd have gone with the third powerplay now as Ganguly has.

For the first time in the innings, India have the advantage and the NZ focus isn't on quick scoring but rebuilding. Odds are you'd have the field in anyway, so you can still keep a deep extra cover and widish long on back for the hoiks. It has to be used at some point in the 50 if you're gonna win, there's likely to be no better time than now.
 

Jono

Virat Kohli (c)
SJS said:
Sure. But thats why the power play was introduced, to allow the fielding captain options in case the batsmen were running away with the game in the first 15 overs.

Thats why the first change in field was allowed to be made, at the fielding captain's discretion at the end of the tenth over.

Thats why Ganguly should have not gone for the second power play and tried to slow down the game by changing the attack to Harbhajan and co.

If this wasnt a situation made for the fielding captain NOT TO OPT for the second power play immediately after the first, what is ??

Ganguly made a bloomer and a massive one at that.
Oh definitely, I quite clearly acknowledged that when I called for Loony Bob to replace Ganguly as our captain :p

But if we lose this game, I'll aim as much criticism to our captain as well as our bowlers. Because the way they bowled sounded pitiful from the descriptions on Cricinfo.
 

Loony BoB

International Captain
Neil Pickup said:
I think I'd have gone with the third powerplay now as Ganguly has.

For the first time in the innings, India have the advantage and the NZ focus isn't on quick scoring but rebuilding. Odds are you'd have the field in anyway, so you can still keep a deep extra cover and widish long on back for the hoiks. It has to be used at some point in the 50 if you're gonna win, there's likely to be no better time than now.
I didn't see a problem with it being used, I was just curious as to how he kept his spinner on for the first over, and was wondering if he was actually going to use the full five overs bowling spin, which would be an odd thing to do with a powerplay going on.
 

Jono

Virat Kohli (c)
Neil Pickup said:
I would NOT have brought the seamer back, though. That's, erm, inexplicable.
9 runs off the first over. :(

With Harbhajan having less than 5 overs left, India are in big trouble. NZ can see him off at 4 an over and it'll be easy pickings from there unless someone decides to step up and do something.
 

SJS

Hall of Fame Member
Neil Pickup said:
I would NOT have brought the seamer back, though. That's, erm, inexplicable.
Yes. if he had to go for the power play it should have been done against the slower bowlers and tempted the batsmen to chance their arm and hopefully hole out in the outfield. With medium pacers of Indian stable the ball comes so sweetly on to the bat, risks dont have to be taken.
 

Arjun

Cricketer Of The Year
Jono said:
9 runs off the first over. :(

With Harbhajan having less than 5 overs left, India are in big trouble. NZ can see him off at 4 an over and it'll be easy pickings from there unless someone decides to step up and do something.
Let's just hope that's the last we see of Agarkar and Irfan. At least Sehwag's got his bowling right this time and should get six more overs.
 

Sanz

Hall of Fame Member
The point is India has to use its powerplay in its fifty overs, Gangs cant wait till 45th over to use it. 3 main of his main bowlers seems to have forgotten the art of bowling today.

He is trying his best out there, now only if his bowlers showed some character out there. Since that 'Duffer' from Calcutta is still our captain, can we cut down the name calling please.
 

Neil Pickup

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SJS said:
Yes. if he had to go for the power play it should have been done against the slower bowlers and tempted the batsmen to chance their arm and hopefully hole out in the outfield. With medium pacers of Indian stable the ball comes so sweetly on to the bat, risks dont have to be taken.
Yadav on... fourteen off. I think it might be P45 time, Saurav.
 

Sanz

Hall of Fame Member
Neil Pickup said:
I would NOT have brought the seamer back, though. That's, erm, inexplicable.
Considering that the only spinner in the team has bowled 5 of his overs, I dont think he has much choice here.
 

Neil Pickup

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Sanz said:
Considering that the only spinner in the team has bowled 5 of his overs, I dont think he has much choice here.
You had two spinners operating quite happily from either end, tying things down and Sehwag had 2-14. Read up as to why both SJS and I would have used the spinners rather than medium pacers during the power play period.
 

Loony BoB

International Captain
Sanz said:
Considering that the only spinner in the team has bowled 5 of his overs, I dont think he has much choice here.
"The only spinner in the team" is something you can never, ever say about any Indian team. They always have at least two spin bowlers. In this case, the other one is Sehwag.
 

Jono

Virat Kohli (c)
Sanz said:
Considering that the only spinner in the team has bowled 5 of his overs, I dont think he has much choice here.
Well what do you know, Sehwag is back on ;)

Edit: And Yuvraj from the other end.
 

Sanz

Hall of Fame Member
Neil Pickup said:
You had two spinners operating quite happily from either end, tying things down and Sehwag had 2-14. Read up as to why both SJS and I would have used the spinners rather than medium pacers during the power play period.
Well I was wrong on that one and yes Sehwag was bowling well from the other end as well. IMO That would only delay the inevitable, our pacers still need to bowl well If India are to win this one.
 

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