Prince EWS
Global Moderator
Think Ashwin's overtaken him now in the role he was playing, but if Yusuf gets picked ahead of him I'll be disappointed.
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*Official* New Zealand in India 2010
- Thread starter Shri
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Shri
Mr. Glass
Yeah. This.
NZTailender
I can't believe I ate the whole thing
NZ to remember how to play ODI cricket and win the next one. Heard it here first.
Blaze 18
Banned
India are getting their own back for the absolute hammering they recieved at the hands of the Kiwis in 2002-2003. If I recall correctly, India were 0-4 down in the ODI series before Zaheer Khan helped India to a consolation win in the fifth ODI. The relief was palpable - the headlines next day were "Zaheer shows it 'Khan' be done". I think it was a seven match series that New Zealand won 5-2.
straw man
Hall of Fame Member
Also, Flopkins is the main reason Franklin can't get into the test and ODI team. Franklin is not a good enough bowler* to be third seamer in either form and we can't fit him in as a lower order (6/7/8) batsman who bowls a bit because we also have to carry the non-batting Hop-bunny.
Was interested to see Van Wyk bat for the first time in the recent 2020s - obviously putting a lot of hope that he or Young or someone can be a decent keeper-batsman for us in all forms after Hopkins is dropped. Can only get a vague idea of how good he could be from a short 2020 innings but wasn't overly impressed. In fact his batting somehow reminded me of Hopkins. Ugh.
* or rather, he's inconsistent and when he's bad he's awful
Was interested to see Van Wyk bat for the first time in the recent 2020s - obviously putting a lot of hope that he or Young or someone can be a decent keeper-batsman for us in all forms after Hopkins is dropped. Can only get a vague idea of how good he could be from a short 2020 innings but wasn't overly impressed. In fact his batting somehow reminded me of Hopkins. Ugh.
* or rather, he's inconsistent and when he's bad he's awful
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straw man
Hall of Fame Member
Watching Stuart Broad in the Ashes makes me wonder why Southee hasn't developed as much as Broad has. When they both debuted I thought Southee looked better than Broad, but Broad has modified his action a bit, picked up a bit of pace and turned into a decent bowler. Southee's action has also changed and at times he get his pace up a bit, but in general he hasn't performed that well and he still averages 43.
There was that thread a while back on 'which young fast bowler will have the best career' and Southee was talked up by quite a few people while Broad was criticised as being the least promising of the lot. Ishant Sharma has always been a bit ahead of Southee while it's hard to compare him to those who aren't regular test seamers for their country at the moment like Wayne Parnell.
I'm clearly being too impatient because NZ bowling stocks are so weak at the moment, and I know that's it's the next 5-10 years that really matter for these bowlers more than how they're performing right now when they're 21 or 22, but I wonder if Southee might be slipping behind and why. Coaching? Player management? Individual players' personalities?
There was that thread a while back on 'which young fast bowler will have the best career' and Southee was talked up by quite a few people while Broad was criticised as being the least promising of the lot. Ishant Sharma has always been a bit ahead of Southee while it's hard to compare him to those who aren't regular test seamers for their country at the moment like Wayne Parnell.
I'm clearly being too impatient because NZ bowling stocks are so weak at the moment, and I know that's it's the next 5-10 years that really matter for these bowlers more than how they're performing right now when they're 21 or 22, but I wonder if Southee might be slipping behind and why. Coaching? Player management? Individual players' personalities?
Bahnz
Hall of Fame Member
Quick question, what happens if Hopkins is either not out for under 28, or doesn't bat at all?
Prince EWS
Global Moderator
If he doesn't bat then you get your money back. If he's not out you win.
ramkumar_gr
U19 Vice-Captain
I think b365 have got a lot of surplus. I'm going to pounce on it.
Mike5181
International Captain
Yeah i must admit i was calling for Hopkin's head as well but Van Wyk wouldn't be much of an improvement. Thoughts on Reece Young? I haven't seen much of him either. Is he a talented batsmen who under performs(like McCullum stats wise?) or just an average batsmen?
honestbharani
Whatever it takes!!!
No game at Chennai, boys.. Will be a 4 match series.. Been raining non stop for 2 weeks and no signs of letting up this week either. Can't have a match and can't get our first view yet of the renovated Chepauk.. 
Mike5181
International Captain
Hardout, if i was a good batsmen in NZ with part time experience as a keeper i would be practicing day and night. People like Watling and even Broom we neeeeeed (If they magically got better at keeping).
Mike5181
International Captain
Probably not a bad thing for the series i guess, another embarrassing defeat could be missedNo game at Chennai, boys.. Will be a 4 match series.. Been raining non stop for 2 weeks and no signs of letting up this week either. Can't have a match and can't get our first view yet of the renovated Chepauk..
