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34. A classic Fleming score!
He didn't look out of place as a long-term test opener though. I think that first session showed why Papps and Richardson will be seen as too timid for pitches like this from now on, so Martin Crowe may've been right about them competing for the one role.
He didn't look out of place as a long-term test opener though. I think that first session showed why Papps and Richardson will be seen as too timid for pitches like this from now on, so Martin Crowe may've been right about them competing for the one role.
Neil Pickup
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OK, In brief as I need to get back off to the TV room...
Good toss to win, little early swing, poor lines from Hoggard and Harmison, too much leg stump, easy picking, Jones and Flintoff impressive, Richardson and Fleming don't get big enough strides in, playing and missing. Fleming's patience fails, good catch Strauss, Astle gets lucky with the caught behind shout, I'd have given it, bat hit pad for sure but did it nick the ball at the same time?
C'mon England!
Good toss to win, little early swing, poor lines from Hoggard and Harmison, too much leg stump, easy picking, Jones and Flintoff impressive, Richardson and Fleming don't get big enough strides in, playing and missing. Fleming's patience fails, good catch Strauss, Astle gets lucky with the caught behind shout, I'd have given it, bat hit pad for sure but did it nick the ball at the same time?
C'mon England!
luckyeddie
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He definitely hit it at the same time, but that's neither here nor there. Umpire didn't give it, and I'm not Indian.Neil Pickup said:
The biggest disappointment for me from an England perspective is Geraint Jones - shoddy keeping, I'm sorry to say.
tooextracool
International Coach
wtf is butcher still doing in slip(isnt strauss a slipper)?astle gets lucky again, and guess whos the bowler!
this is what has cost us matches before and if butcher doesnt learn to field i think its only fair that he be axed from the side and replaced with collingwood
EDIT: argh nevermind astle goes anyways and flintoff finally gets his man
this is what has cost us matches before and if butcher doesnt learn to field i think its only fair that he be axed from the side and replaced with collingwood
EDIT: argh nevermind astle goes anyways and flintoff finally gets his man
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SpaceMonkey
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First home test, at lords...i can forgive a fewe mistakesluckyeddie said:He definitely hit it at the same time, but that's neither here nor there. Umpire didn't give it, and I'm not Indian.
The biggest disappointment for me from an England perspective is Geraint Jones - shoddy keeping, I'm sorry to say.
and he has held on to all the ones that mattered!tooextracool
International Coach
btw why didnt flintoff get to bowl immediately after lunch instead of harmison and hoggard?its not surprising that all the wickets have fallen while hes been bowling at one end.
Loony BoB
International Captain
I think I must be one of the only people who thinks that McMillan is slow to get off the mark more often than he is fast.anzac said:
He gets out to odd shots, yes - but that doesn't always mean he's fast up front. He's just a bit of an agricultural player, I guess.
luckyeddie
Cricket Web Staff Member
It is, by all accounts, a truly dreadful place for keepers. The ball always seems to die - then when you expect it to, it does the opposite.SpaceMonkey said:First home test, at lords...i can forgive a fewe mistakes
SpaceMonkey
International Debutant
I have noticed that Jones uses (unsurprisingly) the 'Australian' way of keeping by keeping his body still and taking the ball to the side of him at times. I remember Jack Russell doing an Acadamy session (on Ch4 during lunch on a test match i think) where he said that way of keeping didnt suit English Conditions as if the ball swung after passing the batsmen you couldnt adjust well enough to take the ball cleanly as you didnt have the gloves under your eyes and it was better to move the entire body into line of the ball when you took it.luckyeddie said:
That might explain why Jones is having a bit of trouble when the ball moves / dies after passing the bat.
Loony BoB
International Captain
Care to fill me in on which of the following is correct, given that I'm still getting the hang of grounds and such: Either the English bowlers are playing brilliantly, the NZ'ers are very rusty or this track isn't designed for making runs. Or I'm just expecting too much of the NZ'ers. But they're looking at around 250 at the end of play right now, and I always thought that if you want to really do something in a match, you should score 300 in the first day...PY said:Macca - GONE
Bit worrying that it kept low though.
Yeah Macca gone for 6 after nearly an hour at the crease.....& the run rate has dropped below 3..............
the other side of the coin with having a middle order stacked with shot makers - no one to keep the singles flowing & the batting stalls..............
already Oram is scoring at 85%.............
the other side of the coin with having a middle order stacked with shot makers - no one to keep the singles flowing & the batting stalls..............
already Oram is scoring at 85%.............
I think it's simply the NZ batsman scoring quite slow Richardson is on like 60 from 200 balls so kinda shows, the English bowlers have been very hit or miss so they can't really be credited for keeping it ultra tight, and it's more of a batsman wicket at present too.Loony BoB said:
tooextracool
International Coach
england have bowled pretty well, flintoff in particular has been brilliant and jones hasnt done too badly either. i think theres a little bit in the pitch, its not completely flat like antigua and a good bowler will get wickets on it.Loony BoB said:
as far as mcmillan is concerned he just played for a hoggard outswinger and got an inswinger and ended up plumb in front.
tooextracool
International Coach
i like richardson, hes played brilliantly and i dont think ive ever seen a better leaver than him. he just waits for the bad ball, smacks it and then goes back into defensive mode again.
luckyeddie
Cricket Web Staff Member
I'm watching the game on UK Ch4, and Boyks is on their commentary team.tooextracool said:
He is absolutely drooling over him - and with good reason. Richardson is the most Boycott-like opener I've seen since, er, um,...
Loony BoB
International Captain
At the point that I checked the PvP page, there had been 31 4's, 6 3's, 14 2's and 18 singles. That means there were more boundaries than there were... er, runs that were run. Those fours made up around 65% of the score at the time, too. It's interesting that they find it easier to score boundaries than singles, doubles or triples.
Astle did not score a single single.
Astle did not score a single single.