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Kent

State 12th Man
Richard said:
Yeah, right.
...Richardson (as well as having the customary small amount of luck) is a flat-track bully.
Another call from your broker, Richard... SELL!! SELL!!

I genuinely like the way you play this forum's balcony Muppet, but really. Sometimes it's obvious you're just fishing for attention.

Richardson will give you everything he has to lay a foundation, regardless of the circumstances. He has a world-leading lowest 0-10 percentage of current test openers.

Perhaps his only fault is that he puts so much mental effort into not failing, he hits a wall after a few hours with his score still under 100.

He is the absolute antithesis of my definition of a flat-track bully. "I'm more of a bad smell than a batsman."
 

Dick Rockett

International Vice-Captain
Armadillo said:
for once i agree with richard, richardson is an unstylish blocker
I kind of agree with both sides of the argument here. Initially I would have been completely anti-Richard.

Previously MHR was a perfect opener - scoring loads of runs and retaining his wicket, even though he only had three shots.

Now, he has those same three shots but opposition sides have figured him out and he needs to develop some more strokes to increase his scoring options.

His strike rate has been dropping considerably lately, and although his average has remained static, it's mainly because of his scores in the 40-60 range. I hate to complain because he's one of our better batters, but he really needs to start scoring above his 35-ish strike rate and convert 50s into 100s. That's what openers are for.

I reckon he's focusing a little too much on the medias inflated expectations of him and try harder to score - even if that means selling his wicket a little more cheaply.
 

Kent

State 12th Man
Armadillo said:
for once i agree with richard, richardson is an unstylish blocker
No wonder the Twenty/20 Cup actually works over there.

Cricket Max didn't have much blocking, but eventually we stoned it to death with mockery. Complaining Richardson's method is going too far in the other direction is just a bit too Goldilocks for a pair of rainy islands.
 
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anzac

International Debutant
Hard Harry said:

His strike rate has been dropping considerably lately, and although his average has remained static, it's mainly because of his scores in the 40-60 range. I hate to complain because he's one of our better batters, but he really needs to start scoring above his 35-ish strike rate and convert 50s into 100s. That's what openers are for.


I doubt that anything will happen to Richardson until we have a 2nd competent opener in the first instance & one who can score...........then if he is still unable to convert his starts beyond a half ton he may be under pressure from McIntosh who, although being a similar style of player, has shown he can convert his starts into big scores.......

I disagree that an opener's job is to score runs - IMO that about No3 on the list, with the first being to see off the new ball, then lay a foundation for the innings, and THEN score runs............

Richardson invariably is still achieving the first 2 criteria while scoring his slow 40s - 60s...............he's not a dominating batsman but he gets the job done, and IMO is one of the few batsmen in the side who makes the opposition work for his wicket everytime............

:)
 

BlackCap_Fan

State Vice-Captain
Richard said:
Yes, I wouldn't be at all surprised.
I'd like it best if Hussain topped the charts, though. In fact, I'd like it best if Hussain topped every top-batsman chart in every Test-series. With Butcher second.
of course you would,you're a pom.
(no offense intended)

but he will have to compete with astle...who in their last series against eachother Astle totally outclassed every single batsmen except Thorpe.
 

Neil Pickup

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BlackCap_Fan said:
of course you would,you're a pom.
(no offense intended)

but he will have to compete with astle...who in their last series against eachother Astle totally outclassed every single batsmen except Thorpe.
Hussain has two significant advantages over Astle, however.

Two working knees.. just don't mention the fingers.
 

Rik

Cricketer Of The Year
Hard Harry said:
Now, he has those same three shots but opposition sides have figured him out and he needs to develop some more strokes to increase his scoring options.
Sounds a lot like Hashan Tillakaratne, although he found more success as a mid-order bat after not setting the world alight as an opener. He had a fantastic run, but now he's dropped away a bit as teams have worked him out.
 

Armadillo

State Vice-Captain
Neil Pickup said:
Hussain has two significant advantages over Astle, however.

Two working knees.. just don't mention the fingers.
hussains too arrogant for my liking. ha try and make an insult out of that neil!:lol:
 

marc71178

Eyes not spreadsheets
anzac said:
I doubt that anything will happen to Richardson until we have a 2nd competent opener in the first instance & one who can score...........then if he is still unable to convert his starts beyond a half ton he may be under pressure from McIntosh who, although being a similar style of player, has shown he can convert his starts into big scores.......
But the difference is that Richardson has shown he can get the starts at the highest level...
 

Mingster

State Regular
Richard said:
Yeah, right.
Trescothick is very lucky and Richardson (as well as having the customary small amount of luck) is a flat-track bully.
He comes from New Zealand you.

You are the one who keeps saying NZ pitches are green-seamers etc.

You are contradicting yourself, again.
 

Richard

Cricket Web Staff Member
anzac said:
but Richarsdon was one of the better performed batsman in the Indian Tour to NZ on those green wickets last year, and he also did well in SRL & India - maybe he didn't score any tons but as a rule he doesn't score big - just consistantly around his average........
SL and Indian wickets - nothing offered to any bowlers.
Yes, he did well on the green wickets against India, but all his other Test runs have come in conditions in which the ball moving was not an oft-seen sight.
 

Richard

Cricket Web Staff Member
Mingster said:
He comes from New Zealand you.

You are the one who keeps saying NZ pitches are green-seamers etc.

You are contradicting yourself, again.
Sorry, but you're again just trying to concoct words to suit your argument.
New Zealand wickets should be green seamers, but just like those in England, there aren't enough of them any more.
 

Richard

Cricket Web Staff Member
Neil Pickup said:
Hussain has two significant advantages over Astle, however.

Two working knees.. just don't mention the fingers.
Hussain hasn't damaged a digit since July 2001.
I still think Astle is marginally the better batsman, though.
 

Richard

Cricket Web Staff Member
BlackCap_Fan said:
but he will have to compete with astle...who in their last series against eachother Astle totally outclassed every single batsmen except Thorpe.
I wouldn't mind much if Astle equalled Hussain's efforts. Nor Fleming, Butcher, Thorpe or McMillan.
I would mind if Richardson, Trescothick, Vaughan the opener, Vincent or the like outscored him because in my view they are all inferior batsmen.
 

Mingster

State Regular
Richardson has played 13 matches at home and 15 away.

And at least 9 of the away matches offer assistance to the bowlers.

His average at home is 54 and away is 44 which suggests he isn't a flat track bully.

Please Richard, you are really becoming a pain in the arse with you lame excuses for the NZ players.
 
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Mr Mxyzptlk

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Richard said:
I would mind if Richardson, Trescothick, Vaughan the opener
How can Vaughan be classified as two different batsmen? He's the same man and certainly not an inferior batsman.
 

Richard

Cricket Web Staff Member
Kent said:
Another call from your broker, Richard... SELL!! SELL!!

I genuinely like the way you play this forum's balcony Muppet, but really. Sometimes it's obvious you're just fishing for attention.

Richardson will give you everything he has to lay a foundation, regardless of the circumstances. He has a world-leading lowest 0-10 percentage of current test openers.

Perhaps his only fault is that he puts so much mental effort into not failing, he hits a wall after a few hours with his score still under 100.

He is the absolute antithesis of my definition of a flat-track bully. "I'm more of a bad smell than a batsman."
Perhaps, then, you have misdefined it.
Just because someone is a blocker, doesn't mean they can't be a flat-track bully.
A flat-track bully is someone who scores well on flat tracks and fails when the ball is nipping around or up and down. Eg. Hayden, Richardson.
Richardson's record, game by game:
TaDa
The last 6 Tests were all on wickets that offered about as little to bowlers as it's possible to do. It goes without saying that there was very little exploitation of these conditions; only 3 bowlers played in these games who can do so (Vaas, Murali and Akhtar). Two of these bowled very poorly. He averaged 55.50 in those games.
The previous series was played on very green wickets and, for once, he lasted and got a good average (48).
In the previous game he got 95 and 71, on yet another deck offering nothing to the seamers or fingerspinners. None of the West Indian bowlers were capable of exploiting the conditions.
In the previous 7 innings he averaged 16.43, on wickets offering seam, uneven bounce and spin (not all in every game, but some at all times).
In the previous 2 innings he got 60 and 76; he had at least 3 let-offs (though 1 unlucky dismissal).
2 the innings before that. That was the first time I had seen him bat and his vulnerability to the inswinger was palpable.
2 innings before that yielded 226. Against Bangladesh. Apparently the wickets were flat but that barely matters as Bangladesh's bowlers, even more so back then, would struggle to exploit the most bowler-friendly of conditions.
30.4 in the previous 5 innings; not especially impressive, but again in conditions that offered basically nothing to any of the opposition bowlers, aside from Warne.
In the previous series, on tracks as dead as you'll see, 71.25. Pakistan had few bowlers who bowled very well that series, except Waqar on occasions.
In 4 innings against Zimbabwe, he has averaged 48.25; again, an attack that can barely exploit good seaming\spinner's conditions, but in none of the games did the wickets offer anything anyway. All were very slow and grassless.
Finally, in a series in South Africa he averaged 46.4. Reasonably impressive again, but only one game was played on a pitch that really offered anything to the bowlers.
So, this is how I've come to the conclusion that he's a flat-track bully. I have not allowed matters of style of play to cloud the issue.
Mingster said:
Richardson has played 13 matches at home and 15 away.

And at least 9 of the away matches offer assistance to the bowlers.

His average at home is 54 and away is 44 which suggests he isn't a flat track bully.

Please Richard, you are really becoming a pain in the arse with you lame excuses for the NZ players.
Again, this ludicrousy is completely reliant on stereotypes. The above removes the need for these and, sadly for it's perpetrator, explodes the argument.
 

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